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Proposed merge of Asham (dessert) into Cocktion[edit]

These are very similar and I can't find any reliable sources that would distinguish them. The article Asham (dessert) has been without any citations for many years. Spudlace (talk) 04:07, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spudlace, it looks like these desserts are described separately in the cited Jamaica Gleaner article ([1]), which refers to this book: Senior, O. (2003). The Encyclopedia of Jamaican Heritage. Kingston, Twin Guinep Publishers Ltd. For my part, I could find nonwiki references for Asham on the web, but not for Cocktion. Joofjoof (talk) 07:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I read the Jamaica Gleaner article before proposing the merge. All it says is "Asham comes from the African Twi word for 'parched, ground corn". That's not enough to base an article on as a sole source. For web sources I found TastesAtlas for Cocktion which is published by Atlas Media and "reliable enough", for Asham I was only able to find two minor blogs that we can't use. Can you add the sources you found? Asham has been tagged as unreferenced for four years. Merging is an alternative to deletion. Spudlace (talk) 17:28, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see, I have added additional sources for Asham. Joofjoof (talk) 01:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The TasteAtlas page on Cocktion seems taken from the Gleaner article. While TasteAtlas has editors, it is still based on user submissions: the founder himself compared it to Wikipedia. [:[User:Joofjoof|Joofjoof]] (talk) 01:34, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm leaning towards keeping separate articles until we know more. TasteAtlas is far from perfect but better than nothing. We see a lot in food articles a situation like American cornmeal pancakes that are called Johnny cakes in the North and hoe cakes in the South, and pone in Algonquin. It would be terrific if we knew more about it but sources are relatively few. Spudlace (talk) 01:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fair, few sources are better than none. Joofjoof (talk) 05:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing, given consensus not to merge. Klbrain (talk) 17:25, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]