Talk:Clement Vallandigham

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1864 Democratic convention in Chicago[edit]

There's no mention in this article of the 1864 Democratic convention in Chicago or the platform adopted there... AnonMoos 04:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

Someone changed "Democratic Party" to "poopy pants", reverted. Wooyi^{Talk, Editor review} 20:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

People of Dayton divided[edit]

I wish there was a specific reference for the statement that "...his activism had left people of Dayton divided between pro- and anti-slavery factions." From the beginning of the article, it would seem more likely that the anti-slavery Vallandigham's activism would have divided Dayton between pro- and anti-states' rights or between pro- and anti-secessionists. Rorschach8 (talk) 02:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome of case[edit]

So, what was the outcome of the murder case? Seems to me Vallandigham made a rather persuasive argument for his theory. Muad 11:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

errors in article[edit]

Please see edits at Wikipedia entry for ex parte Vallandigham.

No federal court ever upheld Vallandigham's conviction by military tribunal or considered the merits of the disloyalty charges. The circuit court in Cincinnati simply refused to issue a write of habeas corpus, permitting his trial and sentence to go forward. The court took no judicial notice of his actual case before the tribunal. Same for the Supreme Court, which restated the circumstances of the case but then denied jurisdiction over military tribunals.

No source is listed in the article for the quotation that Vallandigham disowned the United States. His behavior did inspire "The Man Without a Country," but I've never seen any statement from him that he disowned the country. Can the author of the article point to a source for the quotation?

This statement -- To those who supported the war he declared, "Defeat, debt, taxation [and] sepulchres - these are your trophies" -- is not from the speech that got him arrested. It is from a speech in the House of Representatives in January 1863. There is no surviving transcript or newspaper report of the Mount Vernon speech; the only version available is the reports by his accusers in the transcript of his military trial, it did not include this statement, and he did not challenge the accuracy of the reports. The transcript of the trial is in the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion, Series 2, Vol. 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pknupfer (talk • contribs) 17:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"intimate personal friends"?[edit]

Odd reference to Vallandingham and Stanton being "intimate personal friends" before the war. Are the quote-marks meant to be suggestive? If the author wants to make a point about the nature of the relationship, he should clarify this. Or just say 'personal friends', without any quote marks. 109.154.15.65 (talk) 14:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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