Talk:Clan Agnew

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Copying from Wikipedia[edit]

I have added a Tag above to show that a private website is copying its history page directly from this Wikipedia article.QuintusPetillius (talk) 15:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits[edit]

The following is a message that I have left on the page of the user (User talk:BLG1952) has made recent major changes to the article:

I am prepared to compromise with you over the Clan Agnew article. But there are some changes that you need to make. Firstly, you need to add a page number to the reference: "The Hereditary Sheriffs of Galloway by Sir Andrew Agnew of Lochnaw 8th Bt, 2nd Ed Edinburgh 1893". Then I should be able to verify it. Secondly, the reference "HM Register House, Crown Office Writs No. 4" is a primary source and thus constitutes Wikipedia:No original research. As Wikipedia only allows secondary published sources, and so this can be removed. Thirdly, you need to learn how to properly format all those website references you have added. Fourthly, you have not added a reference for the sentence "Hector McDonnell suggests that the O'Gnimhs and the Agnews descend from Alastair (d.1299), second son of Domhnall (d. 1249), son of Raghnall (d. 1207), son of Somerled, Lord of the Isles (d. 1164).This would give the Agnews a shared origin with the Clan Donald". Any unsourced information can be removed.QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:03, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

From: BLG1952 Thank you for your conciliatory message. As you note I am not an experienced Wikipedia editor and I am still trying to find out how I can access a discussion page as you suggested I should have done before editing Clan Agnew. I will attend to the edits you suggest when I next have time. I will give page and chapter references from the Hereditary Sheriffs; I can quote a secondary academic source that refers to the Crown Writ; The reference to Hector McDonnell "suggests" I thought was adequately references having cited his article in the earlier reference - in one of the edits you undid, I had put in "Hector McDonnell suggests, in Agnews and O'Ghimhs, that ...", but it disappeared in our unfortunate disagreements. Can you please point me to how I should correct the website references. Best wishes.

User:BLG1952 07:20 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Right lets just get a few things straight shall we. The web pages you have quoted do not support the statements in the article for:
  • "the Agnews of Sheuchan descended from Patrick 3rd son of Sir Patrick Agnew of Lochnaw 1st Bt, whose eventual heiress Margaret married John Vaus of Barnbarroch who under an 1757 entail assumed the name Vans-Agnew (now Vans of Barnbarroch)"

or

  • "The Agnews of Dalreagle descend from Alexander Agnew a natural son of Sir Andrew Agnew of Lochnaw 3rd Bt, whose great grandson was Major General Patrick Agnew 4th of Dalreagle of the Honorable East India Company".

Therefore I can remove this information. I will also be checking out your book references in due course and if I don't find the information in source then the information shall be removed under the rules of Wikipedia.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:41, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]