Talk:City Montessori School

Artcicle needs to be rewritten

The article seems to have been copy-pasted from the school website and needs to be completely rewritten.

Raj712 05:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Delete Maria Montessori

This is an article on CITY MONTESSORI SCHOOL, LUCKNOW, INDIA. It has nothing to do with Maria Montessori.

agreed , thats why you have hypertext, but so it isnt losat here it is Victuallers 19:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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Name-Km ShipraPandey Father's-Manojkumarpandey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.96.114.7 (talk) 05:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hugely Promotional

This article is hugely promotional with tons of extraneous information that needs to be redacted. It needs a major rewrite. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I have done a major overhaul of the article consolidating information and redacting material that was inadequately sourced and or obviously promotional in nature. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Over three years later, I think we would be better off reverting to this version by Ad Orientem, then fold in any subsequent expansion that is clearly encyclopedic and backed with high-quality sources. --Ronz (talk) 21:59, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

under Controversies Section -- Links shows only reporter view without any investigation or Final verdict given by the competent Authorities

You are requested to remove or temporary withdraw the Context and Links comes under Heading " Controversies"; that are only the publication in published by the New Paper or you can asked them the final version of the information of the issues to the respected News Paper; any explanation given from us never satisfied to you.

As we are given education to the city's children more than 50 years, as a private school not taken any help from the Government nor any body.

Even after we are providing the best Education in the City hope you are aware of that tool.

Alindra~enwiki (talk) 10:39, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Can you link to any newspaper articles where a "final version of the information of the issues" contradicts the current state of the article? Cannolis (talk) 12:03, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of 'Controversies' section on the page

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This sub requests deletion of the 'Controversies' section as it wrongfully maligns the reputation of this well-known, world's largest school as per the [1] Guinness Book of Records. Thank you at the outset for pointing out the anomalies in the user's approach in editing the article. With reference to your queries, I wish to present some references which present the facts: 1. With reference to the allegation that CMS founder Dr Jagdish Gandhi stopped a Pakistani school from participating in 2014 International Students' Cricket Premier League, it may be noted that during that time, tensions were running high between India and Pakistan because of the beheading of some Indian soldiers at the India-Pakistan border. Due to the security concerns prevailing during that period, especially when anti-Pakistan sentiment was high, the school management was not sure if it was the right time for Pakistani children to come to India. Later, it was found that the student team from Pakistan was also denied visas by the Indian Embassy to travel to India. CMS is the only school in the world ever to receive the UNESCO Prize for Peace Education (in 2002) for its work to unite warring countries in order to secure a safe future for the children the world over. As well as its pen friends program (“Aao Dosti Karein”) with children in Pakistani schools, CMS has invited, welcomed and hosted a large number of delegations from Pakistani schools over the years. 2. The allegation about the school hiking the fee gives a partial and imbalanced picture. The full press release at 'New academic session, new fee structure' of The Times of India says, "With 20 branches, City Montessori School (CMS) has hiked the nursery, Montessori and kindergarten (KG) fees by 16% compared to last year. The school management has increased the fee for other classes by less than 10%. " The fact about the school increasing the fee only by less than 10% (8% to be more accurate) has been hidden from the material on the ‘Controversies’ page. CMS is probably the only school which is so transparent about its fee structure that it publishes a dossier every year clearly stating the new fee for various classes for the session. No other school probably publishes the fee dossier for the benefit of its parents and the public. 3. With regard to CMS refusing admission to 13 poor children under the RTE Act (Right to Education Act) and the contempt notice by the Allahabad High Court in September, 2015, the fact is that the school had approached the Supreme Court of India to appeal against the decision of the Allahabad High Court, and to make such an appeal for a ‘stay’ against a lower court’s order is legal under Indian law. The school itself had approached the High Court first against the directive of the Basic Education Officer in April 2015 to admit 31 poor children as that directive was not in accordance with the legal state rules for the implementation of RTE Act. It is not unlawful anywhere in the world to approach the courts against the directive which are not found in accordance with law. Once the Supreme Court's directive came, the school immediately admitted the said 13 children the very next day, as is evident from the press release here. The matter is still sub-judice before the Supreme Court with the last order of the court saying that the 13 schools should be admitted forthwith as an interim measure so that their education does not suffer, however, should there be found vacancies in other nearer schools in the vicinity of the residences of the children (as claimed by the appellant), the Supreme Court may order the shifting of these children to those nearby schools. 4. With regard to the matter of slapping of a student by a CMS teacher causing him to bleed from one ear and a subsequent filing of a police complaint against him, the fact is, a thorough enquiry was conducted by the CMS management in the case and it was found that though the teacher had indeed slapped the student. While CMS does not condone the action of the teacher the behavior of the student (snatching the lunch-box of a much younger student and throwing it) leaves much to be desired. The student later apologized to the teacher for his behaviour and the parents withdrew the police case against the teacher. The teacher in question also submitted his clarification and an apology. The school has a zero-tolerance policy towards corporal punishment and this is strictly enforced. 5. Regarding the case of a student of CMS Mahanagar Campus I committing suicide allegedly due to harassment from his school principal, the case is still sub-judice. No judgement has been delivered and the culpability of the Principal has not been established. She must be held to be innocent until proven guilty, as per Wikipedia rule which says, "A person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty and convicted by a court of law. For relatively unknown people, editors must seriously consider not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or is accused of committing, a crime unless a conviction is secured.[6] If different judicial proceedings result in seemingly contradictory judgements that do not override each other,[7] refrain from using pithy descriptors or absolutes and instead use more explanatory information." I sincerely hope the above clarifications are sufficient to establish that the 'Controversies' section has been inserted with the intent to malign the reputation of a world-renowned school. Therefore, it is my earnest request to kindly remove the section from the page of 'City Montessori School' and oblige.

 Not done the content you mention seems adequately sourced. Wikipedia is not a promotional platform, and seeks to all aspects of subject in proportion to their coverage in reliable sources. Some of the content could do with some better phrasing, but that is not unique to the "criticism" section - the entire article needs a rewrite. VQuakr (talk) 07:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

• @Rishi.khanna05:, In regards to your message on my talk page User_talk:Skr15081997#Removal_of_.27Controversies.27_Section_on_the_page_of_City_Montessori_School

• #1; you can mention the "Aao Dosti Karein" campaign using appropriate sources.
• #2; I added what was there in the source.
• #3; OK, this needs updating. But there is no reason why the incident should be removed.
• #4; School's own inquiry isn't a reliable source.
• #5; I have merely mentioned the incident and the article doesn't say that who is "guilty" of the suicide.

I added what was published in independent reliable sources. Regards, --Skr15081997 (talk) 09:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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