Talk:Church bell

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Does anyone have a wav sound with a Church bell's recorded?

Look for CD "Church Bells of England" 73 minutes of 16 different English church's bells. (I found it at Amazon but bought new copy on eBay.)

If you are looking for English/European sounding church bells this is probably it.

Also, I wonder why this article is titled Church BELL, because I think almost all churches have more than one. Many have 7 to 12. This should be titled Church BellS?

Just edited the image since it linked to the wrong Saleby. (Balthamos 18:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

maker of the church bell?[edit]

Who is the first maker of the church bell. I was told it was from the family name of 'Marinelli' in Italy, is this correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.155.137 (talk) 17:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outside[edit]

"A church bell is a bell which is rung in a church" In rare ocasions the bell is outside:

File:Asinou - Kirche Glocke im Baum 2.jpg
File:Sofia Center walk with free sofia tour 2012 PD 078.jpg --Bin im Garten (talk) 12:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, surely bells in a free-standing tower, such as those in Chester cathedral bell tower count as being church bells. --TedColes (talk) 15:19, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest bells in the world[edit]

The article mentions a bell in the Bulgaria National History Museum being the oldest surviving church bell in the world, dating from the 13th century. However, there are articles that mention even older surviving bells. Please see http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?title=Bells (mentions an Irish bell from the end of the 9th century), http://www.arquidiocesisdemerida.org.ve/museo_exposiciones.asp (in Spanish, with the second and third oldest bells in the world, 909 and 912 AD, respectively), and http://www.ctmuseumquest.com/?page_id=2222 (perhaps a 'new oldest' bell from 815 AD). I have been tempted to add these after failing to find a good source for the Bulgarian bell, but maybe it is a matter of definition (church bell vs. some other kind of religious bell?). Any expert opinions? Acmejia (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: Link to the bell in Bulgaria: http://www.math.bas.bg/bells/belleng.html -> Objects -> National Historical Museum -> about "Two bronze bells weighing 70 kg each, one of them being the oldest in Europe, were given to the museum in April 2002 in order to be preserved, studied and included in an exhibition called “Christian Art” – shown in Bulgaria and abroad." So being the oldest in Europe is different from being the oldest in the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acmejia (talk • contribs) 22:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Call to Prayer and also editing rules.[edit]

@Shaziyah:, please have a read of WP:BRD. The cycle of events is:

Make a bold edit.
If it is Reverted then ...
Discuss it.

Please don't indulge in BRRD or you will soon find people getting annoyed with you.

Moving on to the substantive point. The article is about Church Bells, their use and construction. Bells are used not just as a call to prayer, but also to announce where in the service the celebrant has reached. They are rung in times of celebration (weddings, baptisms, civil celebrations), times of mourning (funerals, national mourning), to tell the time, as an announcement (passing bells), as a musical performance (peals, quarter-peals and tower visits) and for practice nights. Is a chorus of Shofars sounded to tell the time? Would you have a 20 minute Azan to celebrate a wedding? There is a disambiguation page Call to prayer which is the appropriate place. There is even a request on that page for it to be expanded to an article covering the subject – I think your efforts might be better directed to that end rather than adding irrelevancies. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of the christian bells[edit]

The article states that Paulinus of Nola introduced the bells into the Church. However, it is only a traditional credit and not a historical one —- as stated in Paulinus' article. The article refers to:

Phillott, H.W., "Paulinus, bishop of Nola", Dictionary of Christian Biography, (Henry Wace, ed.) London, John Murray, 1911

that itself refers to a German book available on archive.org that supposedly shows that the bells do not originate from Paulinus or even from Nola:

"Paulin, bischof von Nola, und seine zeit" by Adolf Buse (1856).

Would it be valuable for a German-speaker to check if Buse presents an alternative origin of christian bells?

Thedarkfly (talk) 10:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found a French translation from 1858 that I am able to read. I will edit the article with the information foud in it.

Thedarkfly (talk) 11:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]