Talk:Chuck Lorre

Bitter, much?

I have no idea whether or not Chuck Lorre is actually a dick in real life, but the article - as it currently stands - is clearly not in line with Wikipedia standards regaring "neutrality." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.2.139 (talk) 06:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC) Um, it's not about being bitter, I just want info. Why is there TMI on Steve Jobs' personal life and practically none on Chuck Lorre? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jablts (talk • contribs) 06:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Roseanne didn't start until 1988 I believe, so that means Lorre was traveling around the country with his guitar until he was around 35 years old? Mylittlezach (talk) 21:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Given the timbre of the writing on his shows, one would suspect some pretty serious mommy issues. Has anyone written about this aspect of his life (which could be used as sourced material for the article)? It would seem pertinent given the constant and casual disrespect shown for the institution of motherhood via the portrayal of mother-son relationships in his television shows, certainly in "Mike and Molly", "Two and a Half Men" and "Big Bang Theory".198.161.2.241 (talk) 20:34, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Bio copied from another source without attribution

Have a look at this:

http://www.potsdam.edu/newsandevents/209_lorre.cfm

It's word for word what we've got here. Bio section needs to be reworked or removed. It sounds like a resume, not a biography and has the wrong tone for Wikipedia. Spblat (talk) 21:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Birth name unclear

Top graf says he was born "Chaim Levine". Next section indicates he was born "Charles Michael Levine". Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.95.91.50 (talk) 19:06, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Most sources appear to agree that he was born "Charles Michael Levine" ... the name "Chaim Levine" is his Hebrew name, which he referenced himself in one of his vanity cards (see here). People seem to be misreading the vanity card thinking he is talking about his birth name, although he never states it was his birth name. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:07, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Is it really necessary to put his Hebrew name in his bio? We don't put, for example, Kerri Strug's Hebrew name in her profile, to speak of another one whose Hebrew name was a Big Thing in the Jewish community when she was competing. It's just not notable encyclopedically. 141.151.188.210 (talk) 03:00, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

I removed his Hebrew name it doesn't belong. A person's Hebrew name is not a real name. It is just a translation of your name into Hebrew. Like if you were in French class and the teacher assigned you a pretend French name.24.155.111.25 (talk) 17:54, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

he is not battle-tested bayonets, bro. 205.145.107.100 (talk) 19:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality in Question

This article is anything but neutral. This is an encyclopedia, not a marketing flyer, lol. The bias is obvious in the whole Sheen-Lorre debacle. Take the comment in the BIO that the production stopped because of Sheen's substance abuse. Sheen has sued, stating, in fact, that Lorre was one cause of the shutdown, because he failed to complete scripts in a timely way. Neither statements have been proven yet, and the matter has yet to be decided by a court, so please, keep the article neutral and instead, use words like, "allegedly." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowofmimi (talk • contribs) 21:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Added "alleged" to the prose; otherwise the neutrality of the article, both in tone and coverage, is not in question. Please keep in mind that, per WP:RECENT and WP:BLP, this article is about Chuck Lorre, the television producer, not the details of any latest development of the Charlie Sheen incident. - Artoasis (talk) 13:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Cult?

In his vanity cards and in "How to write a successful sitcom", Lorre alludes to membership in a cult. Is this fiction or was he in Scientology or something? Jeffr (talk) 20:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Please advise the pronunciation of "Lorre", Сергей Олегович (talk) 07:05, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Name

Where did he get the idea to change his name to Lorre? Is he a fan of Peter Lorre? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.165.239.237 (talk) 06:41, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

+1 - I want to ask the same question - Peter Lorre was a great actor, though I only know his role in Fritz Langs "M - Eine Stadt sucht einen Mörder" - Peter Lorre was the Anthony Hopkins for Fritz Lang and his time (in Germany). --94.216.40.233 (talk) 14:45, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

How is Lorre pronounced? Law, lorry, lorray? danno_uk 00:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

whether the company or 'Lorre', the dedication in Two and a Half Men seems wholeheartedly devoted to degrading the mentality of the viewers, wholesale, which is in character we suppose. This is done by making it simultaneously filthy and funny, which is clever but not nice. Incidentally, Lorre probably alludes to 'the gold'.62.151.204.68 (talk) 11:09, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

when we are first introduced to Melnik, he says his wife died, prompting Alan to respond that Melnik is spared alimony, but when with 'Mad Dog', he says his first sexual experience was with Alan's ex-wife, then in another episode claims having had sex with Amy Driscol. Is Melnik a liar, or has Levine lost track of his characters? 84.79.71.163 (talk) 08:52, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Show crossovers

Simple question: what does this section have to do with Chuck Lorre? This section is merely a trivia section, almost like some Six degrees of Kevin Bacon game, only shrunken down to just one degree. The section doesn't even reference Lorre. It basically assumes that all of these crossovers somehow have something to do with Lorre. But, none of the references given point this out. Association alone is not enough of a reference. I would eliminate this section in its entirety under the basis of these unfounded assumptions. Groink (talk) 02:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

The show premiered on CBS in 2003 and has become the highest-rated sitcom in America

The following is wrong-The show premiered on CBS in 2003 and has become the highest-rated sitcom in America. The link is from 2009. The highest rated sitcom in America is now The Big Bang Theory. This can be verified by going to the website tv by the numbers.--69.244.197.234 (talk) 01:02, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Frannie's Turn

Why does the article completely fail to mention Frannie's Turn, which was the first show Lorre created? -86.134.129.15 (talk) 21:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I added the show to the "Selected credits" part of the article. I may also write a sentence about the show somewhere in the History section. Cheers! JaykeBird (talk) 00:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Vanity Card #500

Lorre's 500th Vanity Card was for the 7 May 2015 The Big Bang Theory, and included a formula intended to equate to 500, but with an error. I don't know that this belongs in the article, but thought it might be interesting to others. ―MJBurrage^(T•C) 03:09, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

$1+{\frac {1}{2+{\frac {1}{3+{\frac {1}{4+{\frac {1}{5}}}}}}}}\times e^{i\pi }\times det\left[{\begin{array}{cc}8&47\\14&43\end{array}}\right]\times {\frac {(95mod12)}{log_{2}(1024)}}+V$
or
$1+{\frac {68}{157}}\times -1\times -314\times {\frac {11}{10}}+5$
but
$1+{\frac {68}{157}}\times -1\times -314\times {\frac {11}{10}}+5$	$=155.6$
and
$\left(1+{\frac {68}{157}}\right)\times -1\times -314\times {\frac {11}{10}}+5$	$=500$
The formula should have been:
$\left(1+{\frac {1}{2+{\frac {1}{3+{\frac {1}{4+{\frac {1}{5}}}}}}}}\right)\times e^{i\pi }\times det\left[{\begin{array}{cc}8&47\\14&43\end{array}}\right]\times {\frac {(95mod12)}{log_{2}(1024)}}+V$
or
$1{\frac {1}{2+{\frac {1}{3+{\frac {1}{4+{\frac {1}{5}}}}}}}}\times e^{i\pi }\times det\left[{\begin{array}{cc}8&47\\14&43\end{array}}\right]\times {\frac {(95mod12)}{log_{2}(1024)}}+V$

My edits (adding Frannie's Turn, etc.)

Greetings!

I don't necessarily think my edits were that controversial or anything, but given that it is a biography of a living person, I figured I may as well play it safe and write a small section here talking about my edits.

There is a section above here asking why there wasn't a reference to Frannie's Turn, which, from what I've found, was a show created by Chuck Lorre, that was never mentioned here. So I decided to write a small sentence about it in the Career section and add its entry into the "Selected Credits" section.

The information about Frannie's Turn is already backed by a source already existing in this article, specifically a piece written by the New Yorker, where a sentence about it is given about 2/5 of the way down (may vary based on screen size, just Ctrl+F it). I also found it noted on a website called Hollywood.com, which didn't seem like the peak of credible-looking websites, but it provided information that seemed to match up, and I had no big reason not to trust the site.

Finally, I made a few grammar/spelling fixes, and also removed the ordinal numbers from the Career section of this article (i.e. "Lorre's third show", "Lorre's fourth show", etc.) I believe that using these terms aren't very encyclopedic, with the best way being, in my opinion, using years and dates (i.e. "in year XXXX, Lorre created", "later, in year XXXX, Lorre co-created", etc.). However, I already spent enough time on this article, and didn't want to look up information about the years each of the other shows were made, so I left that up to another editor to go ahead and do.

If there's anything that anyone has any questions or concerns about, you can come talk to me on my user page. Cheers! JaykeBird (talk) 03:09, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Renumbering of the shows he created

The numbering of the shows Lorre created was off. The article said that the first show he created was "Frannie's Turn". In the next paragraph, it said that his first show was "Grace Under Fire". The article then said that his second show was "Cybill", his third show was "Dharma & Greg", and his fourth show was the Big Bang Theory. Finally, it stopped numbering shows. However, after "Frannie's Turn", the article was off by one for each of the subsequent shows. I changed the article to correct this apparent oversight. Perhaps there is some reason that his supposed first show, confirmed as a "creator" credit on IMDb, was not counted. However, according to IMDb, the show did make it on the air for six episodes.

In addition, I have just found out that Lorre created two other TV shows "Little Clowns of Happytown" and "Heathcliff & the Catillac Cats". Therefore, I suggest that the article be modified to say that "Frannie's Turn" was his first live action show, prime time show, non-cartoon show, adult show or non-children's show.

If there is some reason you want to contact me, please use my user talk page. -- Kjkolb (talk) 09:36, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

success of Lorre sitcoms

I feel the intro fails to convey the success of the article subject. It reads much like any other sitcom producer, as if he didn't create three blockbuster sitcoms running at the same time (21/2 men, M&M and BBT), and more. Making a first attempt at characterizing this (in a sourced way, of course). Feel free to expand/improve CapnZapp (talk) 17:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Confusing Date of birth

If he celebratd his 49th birthday in 2000. Then he wasn't born in 1952, he was born in 1951. Xfhxzf, (talk) 03:51, 17 February 2021

Oh, Nevermind. I didn't fully read it! Xfhxzf, (talk) 20:05, 19 February 2021.

References

Roseanne and cybel?

Notable work lists one, however it says in the article he was executive producer on both? Kind of confusing. 106.128.72.17 (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2021 (UTC)