Talk:Choir dress

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Winter choir dress?[edit]

The caption (and filename) of the main picture in the article describes it as showing "Summer" choir dress, but the cappa magna he is wearing has ermine lining, which was only worn in winter. Am I missing something here? MishaPan 17:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

House of Lords[edit]

Do Church of England bishops and archbishops wear choir dress in the House of Lords? Opera hat (talk) 11:31, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They do (or at least they used to) for the Opening and Closing of Parliament and similar occasions, and I understand that the bishop on duty as chaplain does so all the time .
--Jpacobb (talk) 19:07, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a small point, but the cuffs on a bishop's choir cassock are red not purple. 65.189.11.83 (talk) 11:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns about the Anglican Section[edit]

To say that the choir habit was required in 1552 is potentially misleading: the BCP in 1552 required only the surplice, no tippet! To say that "in theory" BCP 1559 "permitted" the traditional vestments is also misleading. BCP 1559 either required their use or alternatively their being retained until instructions for their disposal were issued. For details of the debate see the Ornaments Rubric art. which I have also linked on the main page. I should prefer: "... the Elizabethan Prayer Book of 1559 included the so-called Ornaments Rubric, which could be understood as requiring the pre-Reformation eucharistic vestments, though there is little evidence that it was so interpreted at the time". Apart from the cope, which was definitely allowed in cathedrals and collegiate churches by the Canons of 1603/4, is there any evidence for the use of the traditional vestments in the 17th century? The problem from 1559 through to the end of the 17th century seems to have been securing the use of the surplice by puritans who thought it "too roman". Cassock, gown and tippet are no longer specified as outdoor habit for Anglican Clergy in England. I can probably reference all this, but would like any reactions first --Jpacobb (talk) 19:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for these comments. References for this would be extremely helpful. --Furfur (talk) 12:26, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oriental Choir Incorrect[edit]

Syriac priests do not wear cassocks as choir - they wear a ghooltho (known as a jibbee or mashlah in Arabic), which is an outercassock similar to that of the byzantines except split in the middle and smaller sleeves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.95.70 (talk) 21:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a monsignor[edit]

Per the 2023 Annuario Pontificio, Fr. Giles Wach no longer holds the rank of monsignor (a member of the papal household). This fact should be taken in account in the caption for his picture. 2600:1700:F8A0:47E0:D161:A574:E733:773B (talk) 07:06, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]