Talk:Chief constable

Metropolitan Police[edit]

Recommend that the historical information on District Superintendent be moved to its own page.

I don't think that's really necessary. It was exactly the same rank as Chief Constable, just a different name. Info will just end up being duplicated. -- Necrothesp 08:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More universal?[edit]

In which other countries are police forces headed by Chief Constables? There are a few in Canada (primarily in British Columbia), but even there Chief of Police is the commoner term. I don't know of any elsewhere. A section about Canada can be added, but this is still principally a British term and the article should reflect that fact. -- Necrothesp 11:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-- The Victoria Police, (Australia) uses the rank of Chief Constable and is the only one in Australia to do so. Yeppoon 08:32, 05 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chief Constable[edit]

I'm not about to start an edit war, but tonight an editor has unilaterally moved this article to "Chief constable" which is nonsense, and certainly not required by WP:Job titles as claimed. "Chief Constable" is not a job title, it is a rank, and as such is capitalised. If it merely referred to "a constable of the 'chief' sort" then a case could be argued (perhaps), but such is not the case. "Chief Constable" is the rank title, as may be seen throughout the police service, and throughout the web, e.g.here or here to cite just the first two that pop up on my computer. In any case, WP:Job titles specifically states that where a title (or rank in this case) is of a compound nature, then "either all parts begin with a capital letter or none", so again, there was no need for this move. At the very least, therefore, it should have been discussed. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 20:32, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. My apologies. I should have been using WP:MilTerms which covers rank. It's very clear about lower-case for rank. Joja lozzo 23:38, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's also very clear that it's about "military terms", which this isn't. Proteus (Talk) 10:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Scotland?[edit]

British this and British that? Apart from a mention in the opener, there is no reference here to the eight Scottish forces. They may well all be merging to have one CC in 2013, but all have a proud history, and have jurisdiction on the majority of the 'islands' of the British Isles and a third of the land mass of Great Britain. Poor. Brendandh (talk) 09:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Then be bold and add them? Proteus (Talk) 10:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's "poor" at all. The article was always about all the British territories (mainland, dependencies, overseas territories) including regional and special national forces. Someone then decided to add the table of current CCs (a perfectly good idea), but didn't add the Scottish names. It's merely waiting for someone with the time/information to do so. So go ahead and add them! Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 10:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quite. I'm endlessly mystified at people complaining about things missing on Wikipedia. Do they not realise that anyone can edit it? People tend to add things they're interested in. If you think something's missing then add it! That's how the encyclopaedia grows. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, who's all a bit bitey! Just added the above here to encourage someone to fill a gap. Not my subject bag at all, but even with very limited knowledge of the history of the Peelers one can see the gaping hole in this article. Expert please? Brendandh (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I believe your comment was "poor". Not really an encouragement; more a criticism. -- Necrothesp (talk) 21:59, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed. It read very much like a criticism - and an unwarranted one. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 02:30, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

What about the history of this position? Most people outside the UK probably know Chief Constables only from detective novels of the "Golden Age". Here, i.e. in the time of the 1920s until the 1940s, CCs seemed to be retired higher rank rmy officers, e.g. colonel or major, with limited expertise in police work. Was this pure fiction, or did the scope off CCs change since then? Singhabicht (talk) 10:21, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most county chief constables were indeed retired military officers (although there were some exceptions) until after the Second World War, when they began to be replaced by career police officers. City and borough chief constables and county deputy chief constables were always usually career police officers (although again there were exceptions). -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:42, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of date list[edit]

This list is currently out of date - one person, for example, is currently listed as chief constable of two forces. Given the frequency with which these posts change, is it even worth having a list? Based on WP:NOTDIR, should we refrain from an exhaustive listing of the individuals and let the reader instead find out from the individual police force articles? 10mmsocket (talk) 12:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notability discussion[edit]

See this and contribute Wikipedia_talk:Notability#Q_about_chief_constables. Thanks in advance. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:46, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]