Talk:Cherry picking/Archives/2015
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Requested move 9 December 2015
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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/c 14:32, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
– WP:Primary topic. When people search for this term, they are looking for the fallacy, also the other terms listed have extended names. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 03:28, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support – per nom. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:11, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- What about someone with a cherry tree in his garden, looking for information about how to harvest his crop? Etc., see Cherry picking (disambiguation). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be too much to say about the picking of actual cherries – or in any case, Wikipedia doesn't have very much to say about it. Look at the linked article that the dab page leads to for that topic. It only contains one instance of "pick" or "picking" in the whole article, and that instance says almost nothing. I agree with the OP that if people are looking for cherry picking, as an encyclopedic topic, they are almost certainly looking for information about the fallacy. —BarrelProof (talk) 06:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. The only thing that we have on the physical picking of cherries is this Nonetheless, demand is high for the fruit. In commercial production, cherries are harvested by using a mechanized 'shaker'.[8] Hand picking is also widely used to harvest the fruit to avoid damage to both fruit and trees. That would not be useful for people looking on how to harvest the crop and I seriously doubt that is what most people looking up the term are looking for.--72.0.200.133 (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be too much to say about the picking of actual cherries – or in any case, Wikipedia doesn't have very much to say about it. Look at the linked article that the dab page leads to for that topic. It only contains one instance of "pick" or "picking" in the whole article, and that instance says almost nothing. I agree with the OP that if people are looking for cherry picking, as an encyclopedic topic, they are almost certainly looking for information about the fallacy. —BarrelProof (talk) 06:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Move Cherry picking (fallacy) to Cherry-picking, with a hyphen. The hyphenated form primarily refers to the fallacy, according to both oxforddictionaries.com and Merriam–Webster. No opinion whether Cherry picking should redirect there or to the disambiguation page. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:52, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Including a hyphen in "cherry-picking" seems incorrect to me (except as an adjective, as in "cherry-picking season"), and it seems against the spirit of MOS:HYPHEN. Those dictionary entries are primarily for "cherry-pick", not "cherry-picking", which is a different part of speech – although I acknowledge that the Oxford page shows an example that uses "cherry-picking". —BarrelProof (talk) 20:02, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean; compared to ice-skate, the noun form (ice skating) without the hyphen seems more correct. However, I think since to cherry-pick has its own acquired meaning, including the hyphen in the gerund should appropriate, and helps to distinguish between the fallacy (cherry-picking) and the act of picking actual cherries (cherry picking). The Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary also lists an example with cherry-picking hyphenated.[1] (Note that MOS:HYPHEN advises to "Consult a good dictionary." I think there's agreement here, at least in British usage.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul 012 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- Well put. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:47, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean; compared to ice-skate, the noun form (ice skating) without the hyphen seems more correct. However, I think since to cherry-pick has its own acquired meaning, including the hyphen in the gerund should appropriate, and helps to distinguish between the fallacy (cherry-picking) and the act of picking actual cherries (cherry picking). The Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary also lists an example with cherry-picking hyphenated.[1] (Note that MOS:HYPHEN advises to "Consult a good dictionary." I think there's agreement here, at least in British usage.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul 012 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- Including a hyphen in "cherry-picking" seems incorrect to me (except as an adjective, as in "cherry-picking season"), and it seems against the spirit of MOS:HYPHEN. Those dictionary entries are primarily for "cherry-pick", not "cherry-picking", which is a different part of speech – although I acknowledge that the Oxford page shows an example that uses "cherry-picking". —BarrelProof (talk) 20:02, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support - Tom Ruen (talk) 11:43, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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