Talk:Chaplain Washington–Harry Laderman Bridge

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Picture[edit]

The picture used actually shows the Chaplain Washington Bridge; the Laderman Bridge is behind it.

As seen in this foto the Laderman bridge is upstream of the Chaplain Washington.Djflem (talk) 15:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, do you think it would be better to switch the main infobox picture with this one, and put the current one somewhere else? Jason Ingtonn (talk) 16:17, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/5470191190 Djflem (talk) 19:33, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They are twin bridges, so actually would great if article could cover both even if the names are different:: but not sure how Djflem (talk) 19:35, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That would make quite a lot of sense, actually, if I merged this into something like Harry Laderman and Chaplain Washington Bridges and also wrote about the latter bridge. I will try to get around to doing that this weekend [college has started too so there’s that to worry about as well]. Jason Ingtonn (talk) 20:28, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you would do better to continue with this article and provide citations about the claim of other bridge with same name and to clarify the repairs history, which is not up to date. Read the NJTPK articles about eastern/western spur “southern mixing bowel”; SAW MILL CREEK management area. No ORIGINAL research, provide citations. The article was filled with mistakes, even the date, counties, categories… Djflem (talk) 05:02, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chaplain Washington Bridge 1950s: https://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/gsc.5a21502/ Djflem (talk) 15:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Repairs[edit]

Salant, Jonathan D.; Higgs, Larry (March 25, 2021). "These N.J. bridges are in the worst shape and really need repairs". NJ.com. Retrieved August 29, 2023. says that as of 2021 bridge was being refurbished. Djflem (talk) 18:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/03/nyregion/turnpike-spur-undergoing-repair.html https://www.nj.gov/transportation/capital/stip_archive/pdf/https_www_state_nj_us_transportation_capital_stip0710.pdf https://www.njtpa.org/Archive/Projects-Programs/TIP-Archive.aspx

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/freightwaves-classicsinfrastructure-new-jersey-turnpike-dedicated-70-years-ago-part-1A

UPDATE: that’s it????? Nothing happened after 2019?….Djflem (talk) 20:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

…I dunno man, doesn’t seem like it. Not much that really could happen other than change that 69% to a 100%, which hasn’t happened as far as I know.

Jason Ingtonn (talk) 21:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you,re going to write an article it’s your job to find out, by doing the research and finding references,Djflem (talk) 05:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Definition[edit]

What is the Harry Laderman Bridge? Where does it begin? Where does it end? Does it include the Southern Mixing Bowl and everything over land/rail infrastructure in Newark? Is it the name for the entire western spur that indeed passes thru the Saw Mill Creek Wildlife Management of the Meadowlands and the continuation that eventually crosses the Hackensack, which is referred to in the article? This needs to be defined and clarified. Certainly before attempting to write an article with title Chaplain Washington Bridge-Harry Laderman Bridge. Djflem (talk) 07:04, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My response to all 3 of your responses: on it Jason Ingtonn (talk) 17:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NAME[edit]

There are not a pair of twin bridges (4) that have this name. It’s made up stuff not backed up by any references.Djflem (talk) 20:20, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know Jason Ingtonn (talk) 21:31, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the page is INCORRECT. There is no bridge with the name, Fix it so that it does not have something that you just made up.Djflem (talk) 05:18, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This doesn't need to exist[edit]

Between disputes about the name, and the fact that this (these?) are just highway overpasses carrying one highway over a river, this article lacks sufficient independent notability to exist. It should be merged into the NJ Turnpike article and stripped of all the useless trivia. This isn't the GWB. It isn't even the Driscoll Bridge. It's just a highway overpass of less than a thousand feet. No article needed. oknazevad (talk) 02:44, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]