Talk:Cabin Fever (Lost)

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Good articleCabin Fever (Lost) has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starCabin Fever (Lost) is part of the Lost (season 4) series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Current status: Good article

Crowley?[edit]

There seems to be some not-so-subtle references to Aleister Crowley in this episode. The Book of Laws (one of three objects presented by 'Nestor Carbonell's' character 'Richard Alpert') seems to relate to Crowley's the Book of The Law which is commonly called Book of Laws and can even be found if you search Book of Laws on wikipedia. Also, the DHARMA character 'Horace' (spelled Horus when referring to Crowley) relates to the entity that Aleister Crowley claims told him he was to write the book of the law. Commonly Crowley refers to Horus as a 'guardian angel' who tells him secret things and grants him knowledge, Horace reveals to Locke the location of the cabin. Because of the nature of this section of the episode, it is possible to believe that Locke could be the reincarnation of Crowley, seeing as Alpert presents to Locke three objects and asks him to identify which one belongs to him, and hints that one may be from a previous life. Qforvendetta (talk)

That's entirely original research, so I'm going to have to remove it from the article, unless you have a third party source. Jackieboy87 (talk) 19:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, can we mark it as speculation then? And I can get some sources. I will post them here first before editing the article. Qforvendetta (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you can get sources that make the comparison between Crowley and Lost, then yes you can put it in the article, but drawing your own conclusions from multiple sources is still original research. Jackieboy87 (talk) 12:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I'll prove the name of the entity he spoke to, along with the name of the book and proof he wrote it. Qforvendetta (talk)
Woah. That entire section was original research so I removed it. –thedemonhog talk • edits 20:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I put in about horus, about crowley writing the book, make a connection here! Is there a wikipedia rule that says 2+2 cant equal 4 because it's 'original computing' Qforvendetta (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please indent your posts with colons (:) and sign with four tildes (~), which will generate a timestamp. The Wikipedia rule is that 2+2=4 if a reliable source says so. –thedemonhog talk • edits 00:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, ok, so I had reliable senses linking Crowley to the book, and linking Crowley to Horace. Whats left to prove? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qforvendetta (talk • contribs) 02:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your references back up your claims that Crowley and his Book of Laws exist, but they never mention Lost. –thedemonhog talk • edits 05:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They shouldnt have to mention lost, there is enough evidence there to easily support my claim, there is such a thing as speculation that is in other articles, check out the article on chop suey! (system of a down song) it has a theory as to what the song means that was never stated by any member of the band, instead they supported the evidence and made a valid connection based upon fact Qforvendetta (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The artice you linked above, clearly has a tag stating that the article does not reference any sources. Anyways, if you disagree with the policy on original research on Wikipedia, then you can discuss it here. Jackieboy87 (talk) 16:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cabin Fever (Lost)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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    Well done.
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
    C. It contains no original research:
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
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    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
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  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    I have gone off and passed the article to GA, as I did not find anything troubling while reading the article. As I was a fan of the show, everyone who contributed to the article did a fine job with describing the episode. Congratulations on everyone for their hard effort.

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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