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A fact from Budokwai appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 March 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Budokwai in London is the oldest judo dojo in Europe and that Guy Ritchie, Kylie Minogue, Mick Jagger, and William Hague have all trained there?

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Name?[edit]

'Kw' is not, as far as I know, a valid consonantal pair in Japanese. What's up with this article name, then? --GenkiNeko 17:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Kwai' is a misspelled romanization, also the translation on the page "knighthood society" isn't right, it should be 'way of the warrior society' if anything.... as bu = fight, do = way, and kai = meeting (also used for orginizations and societies)... --Aikidopoi

I'm not an expert, but apparently 'kwai' is an old pronunciation that is seldom used anymore. I found this on http://judoforum.com/index.php?/topic/61858-kan-versus-kwan/page__view__findpost__p__710283. Quickfoot (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That looks right. The modern translation for 会 is kai not kwai but kwa is an alternative pronunciation of ka not seen in many areas of Japan anymore. There's more details in the book 18th Century Japan: Culture and Society. --Kaly99 (talk) 23:00, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest Club In Europe?[edit]

Currently the articles states:

[the club] in London is the oldest Japanese martial arts club in Europe.

Yet it states in the article about Gunji Koizumi that he arrived in the UK on 4 May 1906. He then travelled to Liverpool, where he took up the post of instructor at the Kara Ashikaga School of Jujitsu.

I would assume that the "Kara Ashikaga School of Jujitsu" was a Liverpool martial club of sorts, so how does the claim by this club square that wheel?81.159.165.171 (talk) 16:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To be the oldest club, you still have to be in existence. A cursory search suggests the Kara Ashikaga school in Liverpool was primarily a correspondence school, and no longer exists. [1]https://bartitsusociety.com/the-case-of-the-imaginary-sensei/ Femme du Pays (talk) 15:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]