Talk:Buddhism in Thailand

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[Livelihood of the monks and nuns][edit]

I don't believe all (or most) monks spent time as a dek wat. I'm under the impression that the dekwat are often orphans or childern of very poor families that essentially live at the temple. They gain a basic education for being around and being usefull (such as carrying and dealing with the money of monks when a monk needs to go to market to buy something, etc). While it is certainly not uncommon for dek wat to becomes novices and ultimately full monks, I don't think this is the general case: in a country that has scads of monks, most join in their late teens or early twenties, and do a lenten season as a monk.Dxco 04:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The information described may be a little out of date- it's from a description that was written during the 1960's, before the state school system was as well established in rural areas. It may have been accurate at the time, but not any longer. --Clay Collier 10:17, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the situation of Buddhist nuns in Thailand there are now a small number of ordained bhikkhunis in Thailand. They don't really seek much publicity due to the controversy it creates. This has happened under the guidance of Chatsumarn Kabilsing, the first Thai woman to ordain as a bhikkhuni. She is now known as Dhammananda. More information at www.thaibhikkunis.org

Population Statistics[edit]

A variety of vandals have been swinging by this page to change the statistics on the percentage of Thailand's population that is Buddhist. If you're watching this page and see changes to the number, please take a minute to check that the number offered matches a cited value. The current citation is from the CIA world factbook, which indicates a percentage by population of just under 95%. Any change to that figure should be accompanied by an up-to-date, reliable reference source. --Clay Collier 07:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Buddha images in Thailand[edit]

The article Buddha images in Thailand is no longer a red link.Kevin Borland, Esq. (talk) 11:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Next time, I'll make sure I write the article first, then put the link.Kevin Borland, Esq. (talk) 11:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Government Ties[edit]

Phra Sangkrachai is a beautiful image, but what is it doing illustrating 'Government Ties? Since I took the picture myself AND improperly labeled it (it is really an image of Budai), AND also talked to the Thai Chinese gentleman who designed the Chinese-character plaque, I know that the Yasothon Thai Chinese community donated it to Wat Don Phra Chao, and that it has no government ties. When I get a round tuit, I'll upload an image of a Buddha Footprint donated to the province by the Crown Prince, both to show what a Thai Buddhism Buddha Footprint looks like, and to illustrate Government ties (unless somebody else has a better idea). Pawyilee (talk) 17:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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This section is full of papparazzi-style weasel words. Please correct in accordance with WP:WEASEL, WP:ALLEGED, etc. S Khemadhammo (talk) 19:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide some concrete examples of "...papparazzi-style [sic] weasel words" used in this article section.Seligne (talk) 15:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"lurid tales", "There have been reports of", "after he refused to answer direct questions", "claimed" (I already changed this to "said" see WP:CLAIM) is newspaper-style writing not quite in line with the policies mentioned above . Also, the direct quote "was later found to be a trafficker of methamphetamines, an abuser of women" should refer to one single reference, not two, since it is only mentioned in one source. Or even better, the quote should be removed, because it is an expression of opinion with no clear reference or evidence.
Perhaps you should use news sources of higher quality as references. Bangkok Post is from Thailand, a country where freedom of press is known to be low,[1] and political control of the press is known to be high. And the other newspaper you are refering to is heavily based on Thai newspapers (judging from the source mentioned, Sanitsuda Ekachai, it is Bangkok Post again).S Khemadhammo (talk) 23:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Good feedback.Seligne (talk) 12:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome.S Khemadhammo (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

{od} I have not seen any changes yet, Seligne, and have therefore made them myself.S Khemadhammo (talk) 12:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

Reform movements[edit]

The last sentence in this section "It has been strongly criticised for its involvement in politics, its charismatic leadership and its strong criticism of Thai society." cannot be found in the provided reference. I have now moved this sentence here. Please provide a correct page number, so we can move the sentence back.S Khemadhammo (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

With regard to the forest tradition, Thailand has had forest traditions known as the araññavasins dating back long before the arising of the Dhammayuttika Order. Please look for external, peer-reviewed references for a complete historical account. Alternatively, translate from Thai Wikipedia pages and ask for a second check. I can help with that.S Khemadhammo (talk) 16:14, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fundamentalism Project[edit]

The source Fundamentalisms Observed is part of a rather controversial studies, called the The Fundamentalism Project, which has been criticized much. I propose to remove the content referring to this source.S Khemadhammo (talk) 12:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Political Reform[edit]

So about the latest addition to the "Reform Movement" section regarding the National Office of Buddhism. I feel like this is outta place since its about the secular governments attempts to reform/control Buddhism rather than specific religious reform movements, which is what the rest of the section is about. I'd move it myself but I'm not totally sure where would be the best place to move this info, perhaps somewhere in the "Government Ties" section. I also think the latest addition to the reform section is a bit overly descriptive, but thats just my opinion. Thoughts on this fellow editors? Wikiman5676 (talk) 03:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed per reasons provided, and moved. Also provided more context. Thank you, Seligne, for adding a reliable source like Reuters to the article.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lay practices[edit]

This article currently gives details about the lives of the monks, but nothing about how the common people (laity) practice Buddhism in Thailand. Can someone help find some sources? 22:47, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

This article is a very broad subject, even if you only expand one aspect of it. Try tertiary sources like encyclopedias and study books, for example this source[1] and this source.[2]--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 23:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and I fully agree with you that that part should be expanded, if that wasn't clear yet.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Buswell, Robert E., ed. (2004), Encyclopedia of Buddhism, New York [u.a.]: Macmillan Reference USA, Thomson Gale, ISBN 0-02-865720-9 http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/documents/Encyclopedia%20of%20Buddhism_2%20Vols_%20Buswell.pdf {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. ^ Holt, John Clifford; Kinnard,, Jacob N.; Walters, Jonathan S., eds. (2003), Constituting communities Theravada Buddhism and the religious cultures of South and Southeast Asia, Albany: State University of New York Press, ISBN 0-7914-5691-9 http://www.khamkoo.com/uploads/9/0/0/4/9004485/constituting_communities_-_theravada_buddhism_and_the_religious_cultures_of_south_and_southeast_asia.pdf {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

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