Talk:British railway brake van

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Naming?[edit]

Should this be British railway brake vans or Brake vans of British railways ? We should make it as clear as possible, even from the name, that these relate to the railways of Britain, not just British Railways. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:55, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also see British Railway Milk Tank Wagon which has much the same problem. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:56, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Massive duplication[edit]

Nearly the entire section at Country overview - Great Britain is a duplicate of British railway brake van, or vice-versa. Seems wrong to me to have one-third of that article duplicating one-half of this article. Shenme (talk) 03:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree entirely - suggest making this the main article for GB brake vans with a brief coverage on the Brake van article and a link to here Jpmaytum (talk) 14:27, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

British Rail Standard Brake Van[edit]

The British Standard Brake Van was designed by the Railway Clearing House in 1942. Basically, they were the LNER "Toad D" but with certain LMS details. Four were built by the LMS in 1943 (nos. 731742-5), who kept the first one for themselves and supplied one each to the other three companies - LNER no. 760948, GWR no. 35927, and SR no. 56060 - but only the LNER showed any interest in producing more. After Nationalisation, British Railways built 76 GWR-design brake vans and 250 of LMS design, concurrently with the LNER design of which 1340 were built before the design was alterd to become the BR Standard design, of which 3588 were built, the last six being supplied direct to London Transport.

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  • Essery, R.J. (1981). An Illustrated History of LMS Wagons, Volume One. Poole: Oxford Publishing Co. p. 16. ISBN 0-86093-127-7.
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  • Tatlow, Peter (1998). LNER Wagons: An Illustrated Overview. York: Pendragon. pp. 167–9. ISBN 1-899816-05-4.

--Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]