Talk:Brandon Thomas (playwright)

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On 9 January 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Brandon Thomas to Brandon Thomas (actor). The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 9 January 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. there's a consensus the playwright is not the primary topic, and that the disambiguation "playwright" makes more sense than "actor". (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 09:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

– no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views [1] Joeykai (talk) 16:32, 9 January 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. -- Aervanath (talk) 20:27, 18 January 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 01:53, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. There are four men listed upon the Brandon Thomas (disambiguation) page, with no indication that the late-19th-century–early-20th-century actor-playwright, who wrote one hit play, left such a major imprint on history that his renown overwhelms the combined notability of the remaining three men. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. None of the other people listed at the disambig page were important at all. The North American football player was injured before his professional career and hardly played. Is he even notable? The others seem similarly barely notable (one doesn't even have his own article). This person is the primary topic for this name, at least for now. Even though he is best remembered for one hit, it was a massive hit. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:32, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:34, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per User:Ssilvers's well-stated opposition plus WP:RECENTISM. — AjaxSmack 00:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Ssilvers's argument. He is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for long-term significance. 125.167.59.48 (talk) 00:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support the footballer has 712 views, the American footballer has 540 and the musician has 11 compared with only 274 for this one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:25, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the relative renown and importance of the Brandon Thomases is pretty clear. Tim riley talk 22:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It's generally a bad idea to have a primary topic for a generic name like "Brandon Thomas" unless the ptopic is widely known, since otherwise it's likely to lead to mistargeted wikilinks. An editor wanting to refer to the football player might easily write [[Brandon Thomas]] - after all, how well does the average editor writing about American sports know their Victorian playwrights? Indeed, when I browsed mainspace wikilinks to the base name, I found at least 7 mistargeted wikilinks. Some referring to the football player, and some referring to other Brandon Thomases who aren't even listed on the dab page (including, for example, the link at Joe Gibbs Racing). Colin M (talk) 20:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support (strongly) per nom. By page views, the actor-playwright receives only 22% of the pageviews between Brandon Thomas (footballer), Brandon Thomas (American football), the actor-playwright, and Brandon Thomas (musician). (And I didn't even INCLUDE Brandon Thomas-Asante in those percentages, and Brandon Thomas-Asante has more than 10x TIMES the pageviews of the playwright.) There's clearly no primary topic for this title, and the safest bet is definitely to move the disambiguation page to the basename. (And move this page to either Brandon Thomas (playwright) or Brandon Thomas (actor)). Paintspot Infez (talk) 03:32, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, suggesting "playwright" rather than "actor", per Crouch, Swale; Colin M; and Paintspot Infez. Mistargeted wikilinks, 22% of total pageviews, and 2 other topics with higher pageview counts does not make a strong case for a primary topic. The playright cannot inherit primary topic status entirely from the play. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:48, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but move to Brandon Thomas (playwright). My original thought in the matter was to "oppose" because I did not see how the subject currently at the ambiguous title could be considered a WP:SURPRISE due to its historical significance. But then I started using third party engines, and most of the results are for the football and American football players. We might as well not pigeonhole readers into first arriving at the article currently designated the primary topic if readers could potentially be looking for something else. Steel1943 (talk) 20:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.