Talk:Bobby Fuller

Death controversy

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There are many questions that still remain about the death of Bobby Fuller which happened on July 18th, 1966. Fuller was found in the front seat of his mom’s Oldsmobile beaten very badly, with many bruises on his chest, face and shoulders and also with a broken finger. He was covered in gasoline and gasoline was also found in his lungs. The death was first ruled a suicide by police, but the cause of death was later changed on his death certificate to accidental. However, it has been said by many doctors that it is impossible to kill yourself by drinking gasoline. It is not possible to keep enough of the gasoline down long enough to cause death. Many believe there was foul play involved, which is almost impossible not to suspect when looking at the evidence. Friends and family of Fuller had been searching the Los Angeles area for Fuller’s body and car all day, and mid afternoon the car showed up in the parking lot of the apartment building where Fuller lived. Friends said there was moisture under the exhaust pipe when they found the car, which leads them to believe that the car had recently been driven. Fuller’s mom was the first one to find him in the car, and she said and he was lying on the front seat of the car and the keys were in the ignition. The police report said that there were no keys in the car. There were many mistakes made by the police department which lead many to believe this death was also covered up by the police. For example, there was a gas can in the backseat of the car that was 1/3 full. The can was thrown away by police, because they did not consider it to be an important piece of evidence and the car was also not dusted for fingerprints. The police ruled that it was an “obvious suicide” at the site. There had been speculation that Fuller had attended an LSD party the night he died and died of an overdose, and the people at the party tried to make the death look like a suicide by covering him in gasoline, but that does not explain the bruises and dried blood that covered Fuller’s body. When the case appeared on Unsolved Mysteries, a woman who claimed to be at the LSD party called and said that Fuller never showed up. Fuller had been seeing a girl by the name of Melanie. Her ex-boyfriend was said to be very jealous and possibly tied to organized crime, the Mob. Melanie disappeared after Fuller’s death and had not been heard from again until Melanie called in after seeing the case on Unsolved Mysteries, however it is speculated that the woman who called was not really Melanie. Fuller’s parents hired a private investigator to look into the rumors of foul play pertaining to Fuller’s death, but the investigator was shot at a few days after being on the case and quit. The case is still closed and friends and family of Fuller say that when they ask to view the police report they are told many different things, such as the case is very old and they don’t keep records for that long or that the records were lost in a fire. But they have not been able to see the police reports.

It needs references if edited and reinserted. - RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 03:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• The article lists the police conclusion as suicide but in the E channel's special "20 Most Shocking Unsolved Crimes", they say the final conclusion on the autopsy report is "accident". Shouldn't the article be updated? Kwyjibear (talk) 19:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

• In summary, a likely conclusion is that Fuller fought the law, and the law won. CharlesKiddell (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC).

Cover Versions?

Should there be a "Cover Versions" section of a person? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.245.30 (talk) 02:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Part Rewrite of Death Section

1. Changed "his automobile" to "an automobile". Some sources (A,B) claim his mother's car (but even they are inconsistent -- one claims it is a light-blue, the other white); others, that it was his car. Until a definite reference is cited, this should remain as "a car".

2. Removed the mention of a Gary Fuller, originally referenced to (B) -- but there is no reference to a Gary Fuller in this book.

3. Removed the original reference to (C), an conspiracy-theorist website, and replaced with B. If conspiracy theories must receive a mention, they at least should be in published books, not websites.

4. Moved the original reference to (D) to a new position about the grave. Originally it was a reference to death by foul play, but the reference is of more interest for how to find the grave.

5. Left the reference to "A Golden Age of One-hit Wonders" to highlight the ludicrousness of some rumours; outright fabrications such as this: "his body was punctured by numerous stab wounds and doused in gasoline, as if someone was getting ready to start a bonfire, then hightailed it when the fuzz showed up."

6. Added a reference to a copy of the death certificate: http://www.angelfire.com/music5/archives/fullerdeath.jpg

7. And a reference to where a copy of the coroner's report can be purchased: http://www.celebritycollectables.com/cgi-bin/ezshopper/loadpage.cgi?file=autopsy.htm

A: Spin, Apr 1991, p42 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=tmnYK4rTBA4C&pg=PA41-IA1&dq=%22bobby+fuller%22+murder&hl=en&ei=uVtHTcSsLZCyuAPzpbSTAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

B: Take a Walk on the Dark Side: Rock and Roll Myths, Legends, and Curses By R. Gary Patterson, p30 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Lztkuvi7E7YC&pg=PA30&dq=%22bobby+fuller%22+murder&hl=en&ei=uVtHTcSsLZCyuAPzpbSTAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false

C: http://wewontbefooledagain.com/bluesconspiracybobbyfuller.html

D: Stanton, Scott (2003). The Tombstone Tourist: Musicians. Simon and Schuster. pp. 85. ISBN 0-743-46330-7, http://books.google.com.au/books?id=53iA5w5sR8wC&printsec=frontcover&dq=tombstone+tourist&hl=en&ei=H3BHTdrxBIOovQPowtjVBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=fuller&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guyburns (talk • contribs) 03:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

It is stated that "relative of Sam Cooke, has cited similarities in the deaths of Cooke and Fuller". If there are any similarities, they should be cited. Fuller appears to have killed himself, Cooke was shot during a drunken rage. Not very similar, at first glance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 19:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Bobby Fuller Four?

I'm thinking there should be a seperate page for the Bobby Fuller Four (Bobby Fuller's group). While his early musical endeavors are fine on this page, the Bobby Fuller Four covers a much broader history, as that's the group that first achieved national success, especially with "I Fought the Law." Plus, many line-up changes couldn't possibly be covered on this page alone. Thoughts? Disco dude rock (talk) 04:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

• If you've got the information and the time – go for it. Could be a big job though, writing a new article and meshing it with this one so that there's not too much overlap. Guyburns (talk) 14:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Death Certificate

Here's Bobby Fuller's death certificate and it says under: Specify Accident: Suicide or Homicide: ACCIDENT, not suicide or something. http://www.infobarrel.com/Media/Bobby_Fuller_Death_Certificate_1966 Just an info. regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.219.13.87 (talk) 11:07, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Sam Cooke?

What does "Erik Greene, a relative of Sam Cooke, has cited similarities in the deaths of Cooke and Fuller" actually mean? Sam Cooke's body was injured, but he had been in a fight with both a prostitute and the hotelier. Fuller was gassed in a car. There are no similarities. If Mr Greene did specify similarities these should be quoted.203.184.41.226 (talk) 09:40, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I remember reading about this a while back, but I agree with you, the statement is unclear. Greene talked about both deaths being unexpected, out-of-character and mysterious. Also, Cooke and Fuller were both involved with Bob Keane, who may have been the beneficiary of life insurance policies on both artists. Cooke and Fuller also both spent a lot of time at PJ's, supposedly a mob-run club. Keep in mind though, that Greene rejects the official report of Cooke's death, seeing the whole thing as a set-up. This is not the most common view of what went down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.20.104 (talk) 00:57, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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