Talk:Blood of the Father, Heart of Steel

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summary[edit]

Decker12 (talk) 18:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Whoever redid the plot summary a few minutes ago, it is inferior to the previous plot summary, and poorly written with MANY grammatical errors.[reply]

Nevermind, it's being clean up now by someone.

Decker12 (talk) 18:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)More work needs to be done on the scene order, I am trying to do it from memory. I just put down the scenes as I remember them and can be sorted out later.[reply]

Some kind soul has put the entire episode on youtube (in very poor quality) should you need it for reference. Handy for a Brit like me.Chebghobbi (talk) 18:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to provide the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kni4EdZChXI&feature=related Chebghobbi (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comic books journey[edit]

I thought the comic books journey was interesting to add. If I missed one of the insults then add it. It's plot is comically gaffed because each of the insults but Hank fingering it would drop it's value to $0. Alatari (talk) 05:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On Staves[edit]

Dr O's staff more closely resembles Belloq's staff (the dude he is dressed up as) than the one that Indy used in the map room. Check it: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5329/onstaffs.png (2.1mb png file). I tinkered with the article to reflect this. 76.11.22.165 (talk) 12:24, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural Reference[edit]

I believe this should go in C.R. as I titled, but it may go in another section, however the sequence concept used in this episode is the same as that used in Memento (2000 film). --Gedrean (talk) 05:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I take it back. --Gedrean (talk) 05:09, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comic Book Offer[edit]

I have watched the episode a few times but I can't figure this out, and the current article makes reference to it. #21 offers the comic book to Dr. Venture as payment to clone #24, and the Doctor refuses. So why does Dr. Venture keep the comic book? Also, when #21 arrives with his LARP gang, he clearly knows that the Ventures have destroyed the comic book, and since he's going to Dr. Orpheus to resurrect #24, he clearly knows that Dr. Venture won't help him. Decker12 (talk) 17:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That LARP scene was sequentially after his attempt to hire Dr Venture for cloning. Venture doesn't outright refuse, he says 'alright, alright' to get 21 to leave. Alatari (talk) 09:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interlaced backward/forward chronology[edit]

I watched the episode several times and realized if played in order Brock would be missing from the second half except for the very last scene. The actor that plays Brock has his own TV show and possibly he left in mid production so this odd chronology puts Brock throughout the episode and the viewers don't notice his absence midway. Anyone have a source on Patrick Warburton's ties to the 2009 season? Alatari (talk) 09:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.S.I. surgeon[edit]

why is this man being referred to as an O.S.I. surgeon? brock is clearly trying to avoid the O.S.I., that makes it hard to believe he would talk to anyone that has anything to do with them the surgeon is dealing with nazis before brock shows up, not exactly your standard O.S.I. clients and in Assassinanny 911 he is referred to as "the enemy's top plastic surgeon" if there is some reason that we now know this man as an O.S.I. employee, could someone please post it?--Manwithbrisk (talk) 05:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Harvey Oswald Reference?[edit]

In the first bathroom scene, Sgt. Hatred says something along the lines of 'If Oswald can shoot three hot slugs in six seconds, ol' Hatred can drop evil Nazis in half that time'. Is this a reference to Lee Harvey Oswald? I can't for the life of me think who else it might be (but I'm not in the right part of the world to catch every US cultural reference in the show). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chebghobbi (talk • contribs) 11:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]