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A fact from Battles of Negba appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 January 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Muhammad Naguib, who would later lead a coup d'état in Egypt, was relieved of his command of a brigade for its failures in the Second Battle of Negba?

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Battles not addressed in this article[edit]

I don't have quite enough information yet, but it appears that there were additional skirmishes on June 22–23 and July 8. I'm sure my sources contain information on this, but I haven't been able to find anything off the top of my head. Any help would be appreciated. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 22:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccuracy?[edit]

"The Egyptian army invaded Israel on May 15" sorry to nitpick but is this right? Very impressed by your success rate at getting "did you know" references. Awesome. Padres Hana (talk) 15:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with this sentence? —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 19:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Egyptian army can't have been invading "Israel" until they crossed the line proposed in the UN Partition Plan. Did they reach it? Was it ever defined? But crossing the Palestine/Egypt frontier would be invading "Palestine" or the unnamed/never to be realized "Arab State". Padres Hana (talk) 18:42, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The statement that Egypt invaded Israel on May 15 is 100% true. See Battle of Nirim. Egypt crossed the 1947 line again on May 17 on the road to Hebron. But regardless of this, saying that Egypt invaded Palestine, while technically just as accurate, would be more confusing to most readers today who associate Palestine with the Palestinian Territories. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 23:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Casualties[edit]

An eyewitness account states (Flying Magazine, May 1949, p.60) that the Arabs killed and decapitated 35 members of the kibbuts, and as a reprisal 18 POWs were executed by the Palmach (?).220.238.42.127 (talk) 14:28, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is interesting information (for those just joining the conversation, the source can be found here). I have not read anything that corroborates this info, but it certainly can be inserted into the article. I'll see where I can insert it. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 21:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re-reading the page, I am having trouble figuring out where this information should be added (if at all): The author talks about the massacre happening presumably when the Egyptians held Negba, which was never. It might refer to one of the nearby positions however which was possibly defended by Negba residents. I will try finding other sources that corroborate this at least in part, so that I can figure out when exactly this happened. Any help if appreciated. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 22:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV tag[edit]

@John Yunshire: What exactly is the neutrality problem? –Daveout(talk) 18:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]