Talk:Banishment in the Torah

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notability[edit]

This list is misleading titled, since it is not an article talking about "banishment in the Bible" but simply a list of alleged incidents of banishment; there is no definition as to what "banishment" means here; and there's no indication as to why this is even a notable topic. Without any of the above it appears to be a list of trivia. Can anyone explain why this list should not be deleted? --Lquilter (talk) 17:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion[edit]

I added the proposal for deletion, for reasons stated in the article and in Lquilter's above statement. I have also notified the creator of this article, Rpdant767. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RasNehemia (talk • contribs) 15:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As this was not only the second prod, but also contested at DRV, I've restored it. Deletion needs to be discussed at AfD--Tikiwont (talk) 09:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham and Lot[edit]

Why is the separation between Abraham and Lot in this article? Abraham was not trying to banish or exile Lot. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 12:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to call it a self-imposed banishment. In that, Abraham and his brother Lot decide to separate their households to avoid conflicts over land and property. Either way, one was leaving. When forced to leave your people, tribe, village or home that is banishment. Hope this helps. In the mean, please feel free to edit - add - delete or contribute. This piece, does need a Lot (pun intended) more work. Would appreciate the help. Thanks.ShoesssS ^Talk 12:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But if a husband and wife get divorced, and agree to sell their house and split the proceeds, I wouldn't call that banishment. Here, Abraham gave Lot the choice to decide where he wanted to settle, and Abraham promised to settle elsewhere once Lot made his choice. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let's start over[edit]

OK, so the article survived AfD and now we should try and improve it. Fine, but text dumps are bad! Please don't just copy random chunks from articles on Genesis, Abraham, Hagar, Golden calf, etc, etc, and string together a new article. That's not how things are done. If we have something once in Wikipedia, that's enough - we link to it if we need to point people that way. Please keep this in mind as we go forward. Biruitorul (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move?[edit]

Right now the article is entitled "Banishment in the Bible," but from what I can tell it only discusses banishment in the first five books, the books of Moses. Should the article be moved to a title that more accurately reflects that? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - ::At this time I would say no. In that the books represented appear in the Torah - Koran and Christian Bible, I believe it is a fair representation, recognized by all three elements as and called the Bible. However, always open to suggestions. Thanks ShoesssS ^Talk 03:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nine years on, it still only covers banishment in the Torah, so I am moving it to that name. – Fayenatic London 22:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Banishment in the Torah: the references in Genesis, such as to Adam and Eve, are banishment, but the article includes Mosaic verses of "cut off." Cut off generally means executed. It wasn't until Gentile Kings ruled over Jewish lands, such as when Ezra was sent, that banishment gained traction. 174.34.184.130 (talk) 14:20, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]