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A fact from Bäckadräkten appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Bäckadräkten (pictured) is Sweden's first unisex folk costume?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bäckadräkten.

Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 22:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fredy Clue wearing the Bäckadräkten

... that the Bäckadräkten (pictured) is Sweden's first unisex folk costume? Source: The title of this article about the Bäckadräkten is "Fredy Clue and Ida Björs Make History by Creating Sweden's First Unisex Folk Costume".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/N661US
- Comment: The owner of this photo has emailed Wikimedia to confirm release of the copyright; as I write this, that email is awaiting processing by Wikimedia.

Created by Dugan Murphy (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Dugan Murphy (talk) 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral: - The article does not attribute the criticism of the costume, without which it is not possible to assess whether these sentiments are being given due weight. If the critics are important politicians, more weight would be necessary. If they are random Twitter commenters, it might not be necessary to even mention the criticism at all.
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - No text copyright issues detected. As to the images, though, looking at ticket:2024032510008305 (VRT only), there are unresolved licensing issues here.

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Headlines are not reliable sources, so the provided source is insufficient, but fortunately the article uses several citations for this, and [1] verifies just fine.
Interesting:

Image eligibility:

Freely licensed: - See above
Used in article:
Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dugan Murphy: This is a great article. If this were a GAN I'd only have a few more things to say than I've said above. There's four Xs above, but only one that actually requires action on your part, a pretty straightforward NPOV fix. If the image copyright question isn't resolved by the time you've dealt with NPOV, I will put this on hold pending a VRT decision. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 02:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: Thank you for reviewing this nomination! I have added a few words to the Reception section clarifying who has expressed support and who has expressed opposition. The image copyright thing is still being reviewed, so unless there's someone else holding up this nomination, then we can put it on hold until VRT makes a decision. What do you think? Dugan Murphy (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the additional details resolve the NPOV issue. The VRT ticket is awaiting clarification from Mx. Clue as of March 26, so if you're in touch with them you might want to give them a nudge.

On hold for now. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 15:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Fredy Clue sent an email about 2 weeks ago, which is awaiting response. I started this discussion on the Volunteer Response Team discussion board to check in on progress. Dugan Murphy (talk) 11:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dugan Murphy: Peeking in with VRT goggles, I'm reasonably confident that resolution is imminent. Once you see the VRT tags go up on Commons, feel free to ping me and I can give this the tick of approval. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 19:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin:The VRT tag just went up for this image. Do you see anything else holding back this nomination? Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This resolves both the hook image issue and article copyright issue.

-- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 03:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bäckadräkten[edit]

Dugan Murphy, I would write "Bäckadräkten" rather than "the Bäckadräkten" as the final "en" means "the", what do you think? The BBC uses "the" but Independent Online, Mumble Music, Sweden.se and Fredy Clue's website don't. Also, the Nationella dräkten article does not use "the". TSventon (talk) 23:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a really good point and I appreciate you pointing it out. It seems that the clear predominant English-language usage of the title term omits "the". I'll modify this article, Fredy Clue, and the upcoming DYK shortly. Dugan Murphy (talk) 17:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What was the hardest part?[edit]

We have:

The costume's culottes are called kyxa. The word is formed by combining the Swedish word for skirt, kjol, with byxa (pants). Clue likened the kyxa to an Irish kilt, which Björs said was the hardest part of the costume for her to produce, given its fine pleats. The top half of the costume is similarly defined by a combination of traditionally male and female dress: what appears like a bodice in the front, but a vest in the back. Its fabric, sourced from Ljusdal, is traditionally used by men in that region for wedding vests, but coincidentally bears the colors of the modern transgender flag: white, pink, and light blue. Called a livstycke, Clue said it is the hardest part of the costume to produce.

I assume this is a typo but I am too tired to check the sources myself. jp×g 🗯️ 10:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What you're looking at is the diverging opinions of two different people. Dugan Murphy (talk) 12:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have reworded to make that more clear. Thanks for bringing it up. Dugan Murphy (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]