Talk:Augusta Triumphans

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--Jfclegg (talk) 18:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)Paul Griffiths in Lost Londons has a section on "Watching". It mainly concerns the 16th-17th centuries but still could be useful. I have a copy and on Monday can lend it to you to takes notes on the relavant section. See also your colleague working on The Watch --Jfclegg (talk) 18:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear @Ml17221746:, your article is so brilliantly built and written that I can harldly find a suggestion to offer you. The only thing I could suggest would be the creation of a few pages with a red link, for example Andrew Moreton, with a just few lines. Thank you again for your help in my article. Pbord (talk) 11:05, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Links and stubs I do agree with pbord's suggestion about creating a stub for Andrew Moreton (or perhaps the author of the article on Second Thoughts should...) I would also suggest creating stubs for the other pamphlets, and adding the Great Law of Subordination, perhaps Defoe's best know pamphlet dealing with servants. And perhaps a link to articles Coram's Foundling Hospital and the history of the University of London. Its really interesting that Defoe first suggested founding a university in the capital so many years before it actually came into existence and I bet that a lot of people interested in the origins of the Univ of London dont know it. (A useful expression in talking about it might be "non-residential"). I wonder if you shouldn't add a short explanation of the meaning if the title. There is a very good (but under-documented) wiki article on Augustan literature which may be of some help. But it can't be under stressed how eager Defoe was to promote the 'triumph' of London - and compete with Oxford and Cambridge as the main centres of culture and science!

Corrections About the watch; its not correct to say that before the 18th c England had no law enforcement (I say England not Britain because Scotland had its own system). It had no professional force for detecting, but since the middle ages (Statute of Westminster 1215) everyone had a definite legal duty to catch felons. Constables a slo had clear duties in keeping the peace. JPs and the courts are also institutions for applying the law, as opposed to making law ( legislating). Thief takers exist from at least the 16th C, but multiply in response to the development of the reward system, offering citizens an alternative to catching thieves in person. If you want to go into this you might look at my article on Reforming informing and Tom Wales on Thief takers - but actually Beattie makes things clear enough, and you donet need to go into great detail; Defoe doesn't talk about thief taking in this pamphlet. --Jfclegg (talk) 11:37, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]