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Regarding the English/British thing that has been going on - just because Fraser was born in England does not make him English. Cliff Richard is not Indian, and Simone Perrotta is not English. Birthplace is not necessarily an indication of nationality, not that English or Scottish is a nationality in the political sense. It doesn't say England or Scotland on your passport, and being English is not something you can actually prove - I can claim to be Scottish even though I've never been there, and no-one can prove otherwise.

Anyway - Fraser's father was a mix of Guyanan and Scottish, and Fraser may well consider himself part Scottish, and certainly part Guyanan. In order to avoid claiming that he's something that he's not, "British" must surely be the best term to use. To say he's English without having any real proof of it is not a Wiki thing to do. Bretonbanquet 18:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, you could just ignore the facts and say he's English. No wait, you already did that. No verification, no source, nothing. The fact that this kind of thing is just allowed to happen makes Wikipedia a farce. Bretonbanquet 23:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He has lived his whole life in England, so that is enough to make him English. He is at least as English as Cliff Richard. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 12:59, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fraser's band mate Paul Kossoff was of Russian ancestry, but no one seems to dispute that Kossoff was English. I am wondering if there is a racial thing going on here, since Fraser is from a mixed-race background. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 16:25, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it makes them both British, and your comment about Fraser being as English as Cliff Richard is patently wrong. Nothing to do with race either - English is not a nationality for anyone of any colour - there are no English citizens. There's enough non-English heritage in Fraser to suggest that he might not self-identify as English, and Wikipedia requires verification in cases of doubt. British nationality is verifiable in these cases - an English self-identity is, in this case, not. Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom makes it very clear that fiddling about with British nationalities is strongly discouraged, therefore I haven't changed Fraser's or Kossoff's article, but there is no doubt that saying Fraser is English is potentially misleading, and quite possibly just completely wrong, not to mention unverified. Unless he makes it clear, neither you nor I, nor anyone else knows. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:06, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AIDS?[edit]

A Google check on him seems to say he has HIV, but it's not on his Wikipedia article.78.148.99.174 (talk) 21:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, probably that nasty WP:BLP thing again. Makes it so easy to ignore all sorts of things which may be right in front of one's face. Did any of those Google hits include reliable sources, perchance? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:19, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Having been diagnosed with HIV, he was later diagnosed with Kaposi's sarcoma, a form of cancer that had been very rare until the onset of the AIDS epidemic. This time-line was called into question by Fraser's subsequent revelation that he was homosexual." What "time-line"? Can anyone make sense of this? CulturalSnow (talk) 08:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Does this count? He self-identifies as gay in this article. "Free bassist Andy Fraser has been living with AIDS since the '90s, and quite understandably, the rocker says that his diagnosis was a serious wake-up call...." http://ultimateclassicrock.com/free-andy-fraser-aids-battle/ Vandemark (talk) 22:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Fraser Band[edit]

I'm not sure I have the CD anymore, but I seem to recall that the first Andy Fraser Band album had Fraser as "lead bass" and that there was also a backing bassist, similar to Victor Wooten's solo band. The article obviously is in need of more detail beyond references to his LGBT status and to a few well-known episodes in his music career, so I'm sure this was overlooked or perhaps not discovered yet through available sourcing. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:19, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Binky McKenzie[edit]

Would suggest that if a musician had a significant influence on Fraser then this is indeed notable. It's sourced and Binky McKenzie is a notable musician.--Egghead06 (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]