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Lahore is west of Amritsar

Actually, Lahore, in Pakistani Punjab, is WEST of Amritsar, not east. —Preceding unsigned comment by 64.253.116.73 (talk) 02:09, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

Well Done! - Sharp observation – Page has been corrected! Hari Singh 04:25, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

Recent edits

I made several changes to this article for a variety of reasons and I'd like to explain them here: 1) I deleted the "Massacres" section completely for several reasons. First, Jallianwala Bagh is already mentioned up front in the first paragraph of the article. It doesn't need to be mentioned again. There's a link to the Jallianwala Bagh article for people wanting more details. Likewise, you can read about Operation Blue Star in the Golden Temple article.

Plus, it's awfully POV to call Operation Blue Star a "massacre" isn't it? Even if you might not think it is, can we at least agree that its "massacre" status is more controversial than Jallianwala Bagh? We can all agree that Jallianwala Bagh was a massacre.

Finally, isn't it weird to have a "Background" section, a "Climate" section, and then a "Massacres" section? It makes Amritsar seem like an awfully violent city, which it isn't, if we have to include an entire SECTION for massacres!

2) The opening paragraphs went way too much into detail about the history of the Golden Temple. All of that is in the Golden Temple article. Also, calling the Golden Temple "breathtaking and serene" is injecting an opinion into this, which violates NPOV.

3) Likewise, having a simple statement of when the "best" time to visit is injecting an opinion into this article.

I think this article needs to be expanded, too. There is very little about the history of Amritsar here. Could some expert on the subject expand this, please?

Thanks! --Hnsampat 16:33, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, it is POV to call it a 'massacre', however Operation Blue Star is an event that scarred Punjab for two decades. That certainly needs a mention.
If you check the history, you will realise that I ensured I removed "breathtaking and serene" when I revereted because I too felt this was POV. However, the Golden Temple is by far the most well known icon of Amritsar and probably all of Punjab. A few lines on the building and its relation to Amristar shouldn't be removed.
I never reverted the best time to visit, because again I agree it's POV. And yes, any experts who wish to expand, please do! Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 23:33, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
My apologies. I just noticed that you didn't revert ALL my changes.
I agree with your point that Operation Blue Star should be mentioned, as should Jallianwala Bagh, but I don't think they should be mentioned in a separate category called "Massacres." Just having that as a separate category gives the reader the impression that massacres are so common in Amritsar that they warrant creating a separate category. What I think should happen is that someone who knows Amritsar history should write a "History" category and include these two as part of that category, rather as a separate "Massacres" category.
Your wording of "most temperate" is a pretty good NPOV way of saying what the "best time to visit" thing said before.
I still think, though, that the lines about the building of the Golden Temple should be removed. While it is the most famous landmark in the city, it digresses too much from the main point at that part of the article. Alternatively, we could create a separate "Famous Landmarks" category and write about the Golden Temple briefly there (while including a link to the main Golden Temple article).
Sound good? --Hnsampat 05:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
How's this version now? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 12:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Better. I still think, though, that the one sentence on the background of the Golden Temple distracts from the rest of that paragraph. That paragraph is supposed to be focused on famous things about Amritsar and, by talking about the history of the Golden Temple there, even briefly, it distracts from the focus of that paragraph.
Nice job with the way you incorporated Jallianwala Bagh and Operation Blue Star into the end of that paragraph.
One other thing: can we please use the word "devas" instead of "gods"? It's inaccurate to refer to Hindu "devas" as "gods"; the word "deva" has no direct translation into English. So, why not use the word "deva" in italics, especially since Wikipedia already has an article called on the subject. (Deva (Hinduism))
I've changed "gods" back to "devas." I haven't deleted that one sentence about the Golden Temple's history yet because I'd like for you and me to come to an agreement on that before I change it.
Hopefully that's better now. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 17:17, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Yup. Looks good. Thanks for your help! (P.S. Could any and all who know about Amritsar please contribute to this article to expand it, especially information about Amritsar's history? Thanks!) --Hnsampat 22:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Ramdaspur

According to [1], the city of Amritsar was known as Ramdaspur up until sometime around 1800. Surely this should be mentioned in the article? And why does Ramdaspur currently redirect to Guru Ram Das, instead of Amritsar? (BTW, there seems to be a Ramdaspur, Bangladesh, also, so if the redirect is fixed, there should be a top-of-page dab for that.) --Quuxplusone 04:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Bhaturia

  1. REDIRECT Is there any village named " BHATURIA" in Amritar. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rambani-Chabba (talk • contribs) 23:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Muslim Population

Given that the 2001 census of the Amritsar district states Christians as the 3rd largest minority at 52,000 after Hindus 648,000 and the Sikh majority of 2,384,000. How then can Amritsar city have a Muslim population making up 26% of the city. There are no links or anything to back this up. Census link:http://www.censusindia.gov.in/Dist_File/datasheet-0302.pdf --147.89.224.69 (talk) 14:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

thats for the entire distict of Amritsar, not the city, this article is supposed to be about only the city, so stop adding district information here people. Gman124 (talk) 14:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Muslim Population

Given that the 2001 census of the Amritsar district states Christians as the 3rd largest minority at 52,000 after Hindus 648,000 and the Sikh majority of 2,384,000. How then can Amritsar city have a Muslim population making up 26% of the city. There are no links or anything to back this up. Census link:http://www.censusindia.gov.in/Dist_File/datasheet-0302.pdf --147.89.224.69 (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Muslim Shrines at Amritsar

I heard that there are also some muslim shrines at Amritsar. Can somebody list all the muslim shrines at Amritsar especially at Islamabad Nagar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.128.20.80 (talk) 13:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Treaty of Amritsar

Am currently researching this part of history and simply wondered why no mention is made of it here. It seems a fairly important part of the areas history or am I missing something? Weavehole (talk) 03:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)weavehole

Can someone provide a list Hindu Shrines in Amritsar?

It is strange that there is such a large population of Hindus in Amritsar but no Hindu shrines are listed inthis article.

To name some frot the top of head are Shitla Mata Mandir, Shivala Bhaiya, Hanuman Mandir (Don't know the exact name of the street but it not far from Golden Temple)

Pleas can someone help expand this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruchikalia (talk • contribs) 22:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Main cities of Amritsar Distt

There are many towns and cities in Amritsar distt. Main cities are

  • Baba Bakala Sahib
  • Rayya mandi
  • Ajnala
  • Jandiala guru
  • Ramdas
  • Mehta chowk
  • Beas
  • mejitha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.93.211 (talk) 06:38, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Was Amritsar ever Armistar?

The reason I ask this is that I'm trying to resolve a red link in Warqenah Eshate, the first Ethiopian educated in European medicine, who received his early education at a mission school in Armistar. There is no other mention of this town in Wikipedia. A Google search on that name led me here, & I can understand how "Amritsar" could be mangled by British mouths into "Armistar". Any suggestions? -- llywrch (talk) 05:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Pollution in Amritsar

Every part of the city is full of pollution... Everywhere the construction of something is going on and that never come to an end. It's very bad. Construction of The elivated roads never going to end. its all pollution. The auto rickshaws in the city are rediculous. i cant tolerate them... they make a lot of pollution. The traffic lights,,, sometimes they don't work. There is no timming for the traffic lights.... The autorickshaw's never abey the lights. They do stop but moves before the lights turn green. thats sick... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.19.42 (talk) 19:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Ramayana was written in Amritsar!!

Ramayana was actually written in Ram Tirth Mandir in Amritsar. This is part of the important history and is one of the many reason why it makes the city so important. I am shocked nothing has been said about this in the article. PEOPLE ADD THIS SECTION!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.22.85.174 (talk) 11:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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  • From Golden Temple: G.S. Mansukhani. "Encyclopaedia of Sikhism". Punjab University Patiala. Retrieved 19 January 2017. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)
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Cleanliness

People should more aware about cleanliness. Sharma money (talk) 07:38, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

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