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Notability[edit]

Bobo, I expected better of you. You clearly know there's a notability issue, because I've repeatedly pointed it out in edit summaries. Don't remove the tag just to be a troll. You know that press releases and trivial mentions don't support notability. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:42, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have added no press releases to article. Also, please avoid personal attacks and assume good faith, as I'm trying to assume good faith while looking over edit summary where you've recently remove over 8000bytes of text & then added notability tag on organization that seems clearly notable (gets 128 hits in google news in 0.22 seconds [1]) While the lengthy article before you began editing few days ago [2], could have used some work, gutting article and tagging for notability seems concerning on article about an organization that seems clearly notable.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You re-added a press release that I had removed because it was a press release; I don't know if this is "adding a press release" in your semantics. But that aside, I'm rather surprised at the foolish things you continue to say here. You know that GOOGLEHITS means nothing because you have to check if the references are actually reliable and significant, and unsurprisingly that Google search brings up a bunch of trivial mentions (eg. a current NJ candidate used to work for them, or pull quotes in articles about education with no discussion of the group), op-eds/unusable sources like OneNewsNow or Newsmax, and paid event listings. The notability tag encourages users to find and cite reliable sources instead of waving at Google, and if the sources cannot actually be found, the group might just not be notable. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:23, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a press release. It's an article from The State Journal about a town hall forum protesting the Common Core. http://www.statejournal.com/story/26783916/second-town-hall-forum-planned-to-discuss-common-core. Added notices at WikiProject Organizations and WikiProject Conservatism that article needs attn establishing notability. --BoboMeowCat (talk) 15:24, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it common for the State-Journal to run "articles" consisting entirely of quotations about private organizations' positions and lists of the qualifications of their personnel? With "invit[ations] to attend" their events and check out their Facebook page? I think I'm attributing more journalistic integrity to the State-Journal than you are right now. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:03, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article in question is not entirely quotations. [3] Considering we clearly see this source diferently, I brought the dispute to the RS noticeboard.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 00:19, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the notability front, the APP's website can help as it has a page that summarises press coverage of its 2014 gala.[4] Bromley86 (talk) 11:52, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I went through those articles (and a bunch of others) and have managed to add what was in the previous edit (and a few other things) in. Bromley86 (talk) 17:36, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bell as a co-founder[edit]

Not totally convinced that this is true. We have one report that mentions it in passing,[5] but it's not mentioned on the APP's site (and they're apparently quite happy with Bell, as they're supporting his campaign[6]). Yet in all the articles I read on the APP (e.g. that last link), Bell is described as having been a director there from 2010-2014. As it was founded in 2009, this calls the co-founder point into question.

I've left it in for the moment. Any thoughts? Bromley86 (talk) 12:49, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other sources. Bell's election site.[7]. Washington Times.[8] So looks like it does belong. Bromley86 (talk) 09:40, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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