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ALIENS[edit]

ALIENS ARE DEFFENTLY REAL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.182.124.113 (talk) 00:52, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed tag[edit]

There is a citation needed for King John was the first to seize the alien priories...

Here is a starter: Lapley...After the loss of Normandy in 1204 King John seized the priory ^[1] - it doesn't say that John was first, but it does say that John siezed (at least one) priory on loosing Normandy - and there would have been no fit cause when the crowns were united.

and another: Spettisbury...in the reign of John of the lands of Normans in England seized into the king's hand...^[2] - it, too, doesn't say John was first, but it is clear that John did it.

1204 was during the interdict, and everything done then was about money and power. The remark is reasonable, and casual references support it^[3]

References

^ VCH page"Alien houses: The priory of Lapley". A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 3. Victoria County History. 1970. pp. 340–343. ISBN 9780197227329. Retrieved 27 May 2013. After the loss of Normandy in 1204 King John seized the priory {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |editors= ignored (|editor= suggested) (help)
^ VCH pageWilliam Page, ed. (1908). "Alien houses: The priory of Spettisbury". A History of the County of Dorset: Volume 2. Victoria County History. pp. 119–121. ISBN 9780712906708. Retrieved 27 May 2013. in the reign of John of the lands of Normans in England seized into the king's hand
^ "Shakesperean history".

Parliament of Leicester[edit]

What is this parliament, mentioned in the last paragraph? The text implies it was (after?) 1414, but the Link leads to Simon de Montfort's Parliament. Either the link or the text has to be corrected. -- 93.220.75.59 (talk) 07:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I came to ask the same question. These priories seem to have come to an uncertain end:

In 1378, all the monks in alien priories were expelled from England. They finally came to an end under Henry V in 1414. Those that had not been already assigned with the Pope's assent to other religious purposes, were finally suppressed by Simon de Montfort's Parliament

The monks left in 1378. The priories remained in existence (empty?) for another 36 years till 1414, and they were finally suppressed in... 1265?! Chuntuk (talk) 14:40, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doing a bit more digging, it seems that they were abolished in the Fire and Faggot Parliament that met in in Leicester in 1414, but I don't have a good source to say so conclusively. Chuntuk (talk) 14:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] VCH page"Alien houses: The priory of Lapley". A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 3. Victoria County History. 1970. pp. 340–343. ISBN 9780197227329. Retrieved 27 May 2013. After the loss of Normandy in 1204 King John seized the priory {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |editors= ignored (|editor= suggested) (help)

[2] VCH pageWilliam Page, ed. (1908). "Alien houses: The priory of Spettisbury". A History of the County of Dorset: Volume 2. Victoria County History. pp. 119–121. ISBN 9780712906708. Retrieved 27 May 2013. in the reign of John of the lands of Normans in England seized into the king's hand

[3] "Shakesperean history".

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