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Just a note[edit]

To myself and other editors what parts of the article I've worked on. Please don't remove anything I listed, but feel free to comment on my edits. I will be adding to the list in addition to regularly checking back here for any feedback.

Accidents involving fatalities[edit]

1980
1981- William 19:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ANT-20bis crash[edit]

I added this crash and it was taken down, supposedly not an Aeroflot occurrence. What airline was the ANT-20bis operating for, if it wasn't Aeroflot? Meltdown627 (talk) 00:58, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reference you provided describes the occurrence that involved a United States Navy aircraft, not an Aeroflot one.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added the accident; I did not realize that there was an error in the URL (it has a hyphen followed by a digit and the digit after the hyphen was wrong) Meltdown627 (talk) 19:23, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

More recent accidents missing ?[edit]

Hi,

why does the list stop with incidents during the 90s ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.188.166.21 (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More accidents[edit]

I found more accidents on ASN, but the ones from 1951 and later do not have info on the narrative on the crash (I've been using airdisaster.ru for info); is there a way we can get the airdisaster.ru info to ASN? Meltdown627 (talk) 19:29, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction re-write[edit]

I added facts about the size of Aeroflot so as to contextualize the historical accident rate, without which the original introductory statements were somewhat meaningless, and the fact that Aeroflot included every fixed and rotary wing aircraft in the former USSR. This amounted to over 14,000 aircraft which puts the figures into perspective compared to other airlines. Even a combination of numerous other large airlines would not have come anywhere close to this total, so it is pointless to compare them. Air France has only 223 planes in its inventory, and in 1990 Pan Am had 152 planes according to its current wikipedia profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxzden (talk • contribs) 01:31, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your additions have been removed. You need to cite sources.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've now added relevant sources. Most of this information is very accessible from the hyperlinked Wiki entries and airline inventories do not need to be cited (they appear on every relevant wiki profiles). The original introduction did not indicate the huge difference in size between Aeroflot today vs during the Soviet era. Also, after 2009 Aeroflot continued to use Russian aircraft - the Il-96 wide-body fleet was not retired until 2014 and Aeroflot has 37 Sukhoi 100 jets in service. Maxzden

I do not see the point of providing the link above. Nobody but you is obliged by WP:BURDEN to source your additions.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My comment above refers to this [1] version of the talk page, which included a link to a webpage and it was later modified by Maxzden. And yes, everytihing should be cited; it doesn't matter if the content is found in other Wikipedia articles. Again, you don't seem to understad WP:VERIFY.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:54, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroflot Flight 821[edit]

Aeroflot Flight 821 in 2008 was not Aeroflot flight, but code sharing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_821. So it can't be counted toward Aeroflot statistic. 31.168.172.254 (talk) 14:37, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Introductory Paragraphs appear biased[edit]

The author of the introductory paragraphs appears to go to extraordinary lengths to justify the number of crashes of Aeroflot planes, primarily citing the size of the company and duration of its existence. I'd be interested to see if the data supports how Aeroflots crash/fatality rating stands as it compares with the aviation industry as a whole.

About the 1940s Aeroflot incidents...[edit]

...Maybe we should move the 1940s Aeroflot incidents to their own article, like how most of the other decades have their own articles? The 1940s section alone takes up most of this article, and some of the incidents could use some more elaboration (e.g. the worrying number of friendly fire incidents and disappearances during 1941-42).

B-1700 (talk) 15:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]