Talk:2020 NHL Entry Draft

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Taylor Hall Trade[edit]

So the return is a 2020 first round pick (no lottery protection as far as I can tell), a conditional 2021 3rd round pick (can become a 1st if Hall resigns with Arizona and if they make it past round one in the playoffs, if one of the conditions is meant then it's a 2nd round pick in 2021) and Kevin Bahl, Nate Schnaar & Nick Merkley in exchange for Taylor Hall and Blake Speers.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batrous (talkcontribs) 23:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for trying to help out, though we don't usually use the talk page for this unless we are unable to find out the details of the trade conditions. Deadman137 (talk) 02:19, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't sure if I should talk about the trade on here. Apparently the 2020 1st is conditional (top 3 protected). Conditions on the picks involved are covered on this twitter post. [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batrous (talkcontribs) 02:42, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While your source is verified, we generally try to stay as far away as possible from using Twitter if possible. Now if you want to use his work from ESPN that's fine to do (we try to apply the same standards to the notable Canadian reporters too). Also, we normally will use the league's report as our primary source as they are usually the most accurate. We'll use one of the major sports network sites (from either country) as a secondary source if needed and sometimes we'll go as far as using a local newspaper as a tertiary source if the secondary doesn't have the information that we need.
Though as far as this trade goes, another user has already added enough relevant details and a credible source to list this trade in the article. Deadman137 (talk) 03:04, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse order of finish using point percentage[edit]

The following is a list in reverse order of league finish for this year's playoff teams assuming that division winners are ranked normally:

  • Montreal Canadiens
  • Chicago Blackhawks
  • Arizona Coyotes
  • Minnesota Wild
  • Winnipeg Jets
  • Calgary Flames
  • New York Rangers
  • Vancouver Canucks
  • Nashville Predators
  • Florida Panthers
  • Columbus Blue Jackets
  • Toronto Maple Leafs
  • Edmonton Oilers
  • New York Islanders
  • Dallas Stars
  • Carolina Hurricanes
  • Pittsburgh Penguins
  • Philadelphia Flyers
  • Tampa Bay Lightning
  • Colorado Avalanche
  • Vegas Golden Knights
  • Washington Capitals
  • St. Louis Blues
  • Boston Bruins

Deadman137 (talk) 05:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So division winners were not moved lower this season. Thankfully the only error this assumption produced involved flipping Colorado and Washington, which has already been corrected. Deadman137 (talk) 23:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded 2020 Playoffs and Trades[edit]

The article should explain somewhere the effects of the expanded 2020 playoffs on trades. The Qualifying Round is considered part of the playoffs, but trades conditional on making the playoffs aren't triggered unless a team makes it to Round One. This most closely reflects the intent of the trade at the time it was made, since no one could anticipate the circumstances that added the extra round. I'm not sure where it should go and I don't have any references at hand, so I wanted to see what other editors thought. Jwolfe (talk) 07:01, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At this point I don't think that we'll need to, as all but one of these trades are now resolved. Any remaining conditional trades that have playoff performance attached to them are not affected by the additional qualifying round. Deadman137 (talk) 12:32, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking more about historical context for a future reader and less about something to help a current reader determine if a trade will be converted. Jwolfe (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Round 5 notes section (game-day trades)[edit]

Round 5 notes have to be updated. I have not been able to find references for some of the moves. E.g. Ben Meehan picked by LA. Alaney2k (talk) 22:23, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it, I'll find something useful soon enough. Thanks again for helping out. Deadman137 (talk) 23:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Round 4 notes section[edit]

I am just curious, why should the condition for the Simmonds trade not be explained fully? The way it is worded now is very confusing, as the ambiguity of it implies that Philly would get a pick from Nashville for Simmonds provided Nashville doesn't win a playoff round. It comes across as counterintuitive when taken out of context like that. 2601:42:0:4E50:7057:5E55:5E6A:6DC9 (talk) 18:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting: Notes[edit]

The Notes for each round appear as a separate section outside of the drop-down that the Notes refer to. This leads to extensive scrolling required between draft rounds.

Also, the statistics by Country list the rank of each country in the first left column. However, where there are countries that each had the same number of draft picks, the rank increases by 1, when there are two countries toed for that rank. The standard convention is to skip the following rank, for instance if two countries tied for 7th place, the next rank would be 9th place. 98.7.206.64 (talk) 13:49, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I know that the policy for WP:HOCKEY has been to avoid diacritics, but in the case of Stützle and Lafrenière, they are now almost exclusively using them in all media, both in North American and abroad. I'm of the opinion that we need to modify this article to reflect that. Thoughts? Kaiser matias (talk) 20:16, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are still many that do not do this, and we recently had this same conversation with no consensus. Give it a year and we'll see where things are at then. Deadman137 (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I may have missed the recent discussion, so apologies on that. Thanks for the heads up. Kaiser matias (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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