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Editing the "Casualties and losses" to match different parts of the article and the given sources[edit]

On the Casualties and losses for the israeli side it says " 87 civilians wounded" and gives 2 sources. https://www.mdais.org/316/7004.htm Is seems to be a dead link and https://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/50-days-of-Israels-Gaza-operation-Protective-Edge-by-the-numbers-372574 clearly states a different number "According to Magen David Adom, there were 842 Israeli casualties during the fighting. Six civilians were killed by rocket or mortar strikes and 36 were wounded by shrapnel, including 10 who were seriously injured, 6 who were moderately injured, and 20 who sustained light injuries. MDA added that another 33 people were hurt by flying glass, and that 18 people were hurt in traffic accidents that occurred when rocket warning sirens sounded, including one person who was seriously injured. Also, 159 people were injured while running for bomb shelters, and 581 were treated for shock. In addition, nine people were killed in three terrorist attacks in Israel."

Which totals to 1633. and even if you disregard casuallities not directly related to the bombings it still is 842 and not 87. But I'd argue that running to a shelter, getting hit glass that exploded due to shrapnel and emotional damage caused by the bombings should still count and totals to 1615.

Even the body of the article argues a completely different number of civilian casualities right before the "Contents" while also quoting the same Jpost source. "...and 469 IDF soldiers and 261 Israeli civilians were injured.[17]" further proof that those numbers are wrong/not implied from this source is that both "87" and "261" are never mentioned in the article or are a combination of other numbers in the article. While the "469 IDF soldiers" is directly referenced in the article.

Biased to Hamas point of view[edit]

Article fails to address and spotlight fact that Hamas is killing civilians as part of their goal to kill Jews as being a terrorist organization that values death of every Jew and Israeli.

The article fails to provide explanation of how Hamas is not interested in third party regulatory body, and was executing UN peacekeepers in 2007, while the only goal to break the siege is to arm themselves with more strategic weapons and open an even more deadly war on Israel. There is no effective siege, as Israel allows transfer of good into Gaza strip, from inside Israel, oversighting the income products to prevent arming the terrorist group that openly intends to exterminate all Jews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimSim314 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox notes[edit]

I see the current infobox has notes for civilian percentages but it seems more unnecessary and confusing. Notes are typically done for long comments that would disrupt text flow. Yet adding something like "70% civilians" is not long at all. Secondly, when one sees the "a 70% civilians" etc its confusing. I've been editing wikipedia for more than a decade and this is the first time I've seen notes inside an infobox (usually they are at the bottom of an article). So at first glance it seems like it would apply to all casualties yet this is something specific to a figure. So I would just include the note adjacent to the figure instead of separating them.VR _talk 10:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead not clear about ground operation[edit]

The lead says "the Israeli ground invasion ended on 5 August" but it does not say when this part of the operation began. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 04:55, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References broken[edit]

@Pppery: your recent change broke a few references. Are you able to sort out the transclusion here so that the page is correctly referenced? -- Mikeblas (talk) 16:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AnomieBOT seems to have fixed it. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Ground invasion of Gaza" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect Ground invasion of Gaza has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 30 § Ground invasion of Gaza until a consensus is reached. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 23:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]