Talk:2012 United States presidential election in Florida

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For the love of God! Will someone please fly down there and help them find their abacus?? Smooth pappa (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get the source for saying that Romney has CONCEDED Florida. Someone in the campaign is ruing a poor performance but that's not conceding. No news outlet is yet calling the state...(12:15pm EST, Friday Nov 9) 80.254.148.147 (talk) 17:16, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - The United States presidential election, 2012 article is currently a battleground with some editor's awarding Florida to Obama and others saying it's undecided per what the news media decision desks are reporting. The NY Times has a summary at http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president/network-calls and at present none of the networks have called Florida yet. It seems odd as on Election night the networks were calling states with under 10% of the vote counted and sometimes with the "winning" person behind in the vote total. Now they are all taking a let's-wait-and-see-and-report-the-news accurately-rather-than-guessing attitude. :-)
If you look at the raw data - all of the states are still counting votes and will continue to count up into December. There's nothing exceptional about what Florida is doing. I have not seen any articles explaining why the media decision desks are still holding off on calling Florida. --Marc Kupper|talk 18:20, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Woo hoo! The networks are starting to call Florida. --Marc Kupper|talk 18:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • CNN calls it for Obama at 12:56 PM ET (eastern time).[1]
  • NBC News calls it for Obama at 1:22pm.[2]
  • AP calls it for Obama at 1:34 PM[3].
  • Fox News was holding out as of 1:34pm and called it for Obama at 1:42pm.[4]
  • NY Times was holding off is holding off as of 1:46 PM ET 303 Obama, 29 undecided, 206 Romney but called it for Obama when rechecked at 2:04pm. However, their main politics page does not have any articles yet and the map and electoral totals that page still showed Florida as undecided.
  • ABC News was also holding out as of 1:40pm. When rechecked at 2:16pm their election map calls is for Obama but there were no articles yet. The Twitter sidebar of http://abcnews.go.com/politics says Steven Portnoy 11/10/2012 2:08 PM ET For the record, Obama wins Florida at 2pET: http : //t.co/PPIVU2c2 The Twitter post links to an undated/timed ABC News radio clip. I'll put them down as 2pm.
  • CBS News is holding out as of 1:42pm and called it for Obama at 2:09 PM.[5]
I think that's all of the major networks? --Marc Kupper|talk 18:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article name[edit]

Please see discussion at Talk:United States presidential election, 2012#Article name, to change ", 2012" to "of 2012". Apteva (talk) 21:30, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unbalanced[edit]

Is there anyone who knows the Florida political landscape who can write a new "Presidential Campaign" section? As it stands today, this article is not actually about the presidential election in Florida. It is rather about the Republican Party primary. This is of true secondary importance.

There should be some description of the issues emphasized by each candidate, the groups they play to, the part the now reduced size of the Cuban vote compared to the entire Hispanic vote played, how well each appealed to the elderly, and the Jewish community, the part the Florida legislature played vis a vis the claims of vote suppression via the numerous ballot proposals, etc.

There is a LOT to say about the internal politics of the state, and the power groups in the state.

Please, anyone? Nick Beeson (talk) 01:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please dive in and write Nick. Thank you! FWIW, a couple of days after the general election the article was only about the Republican primary. I've been adding some general election results but don't have the time to research and then write about the issues you brought up. --Marc Kupper|talk 17:12, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am a very brave editor. Never afraid to stick my voice into the article. But I have lived in Michigan my entire life, and I know nothing about Florida politics. Everything I would write would be original research (which Wikipedia forbids) of the lowest quality. I am hoping some neutral person in Florida with expertise in Florida politics will write the 1000 word summary of what happened before it is lost to time. Given the central position Florida has played in recent presidential elections I think this is important but I absolutely cannot do it. Nick Beeson (talk) 00:11, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've visited and worked in Florida a few times. All I know about the politics is that the state bird is this giant flying cockroach that can stink up a room. Sounds like politics doesn't it? :-)
We can use the previous election articles as a model. For example:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/voting-info.shtml says the primaries were on August 14, 2012 and http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/index.shtml has the election results for the primaries. Unfortunately "2012 Primary/Precinct-Level Election Results" on that page is a 404. I've e-mailed them. I seem to recall there either was no Democratic primary or there was no campaigning as Obama ran unopposed. Thus I wanted to see if I could find a copy of the primary ballots. A quick check did not locate that but maybe you can turn it up.
The article should say something about early voting. I think it's a new experiment this year. See http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/early.shtml --Marc Kupper|talk 01:20, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Florida elections people e-mailed back and thought they had fixed the links on http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/index.shtml - that was not the case and we are still waiting for that data.
This news article says there was no Democratic primary in Florida but does not explain why. I did not spot an article that explains why there was no Democratic primary or "presidential preference" as they call them in Florida this year. The Republicans had one on January 31, 2012 along with Democratic primaries for house/senate offices.
This article does not seem as reliably or NPOV. It's from 2008 and says "The Democratic National Committee dealt a harsher penance, stripping the state of all 210 delegates to that party's nominating convention in August. They also extracted a pledge from the candidates not to campaign in Florida, although the candidates are on the ballot for this Tuesday's voting." Was this still going on in 2011/2012? --Marc Kupper|talk 19:20, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Florida elections people have fixed the links but it turns out the formerly missing data does not include the presidential part of the election. http://doe.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/index.asp offers a hint that would be the case in that the drop-down list offers "2012 Primary Election" and "2012 Presidential Preference." --Marc Kupper|talk 23:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2023[edit]

I was updating the county results table formatting with the correct results along with the vote margins but it keeps being reverted. 2603:6010:F006:964B:5977:E28E:9A5E:5C7B (talk) 22:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. From the edit summaries, it seems you are not just changing the format, but the numbers as well. Discuss with other editors first. RudolfRed (talk) 23:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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