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Note the lower-case r in the article title. This is because 'rimfire' is a descriptive term and is therefore sentence case. The individual cartridges in this family such as .46 Short, .46 Long would be capitalised. - StraightAsADie (talk) 00:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs expansion to include a description of the .46 Extra Long, rolling block rifles chambered for these rimfire cartridges and perhaps the other more esoteric case lengths. - StraightAsADie (talk) 00:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some measurements on .46 rimfire cartridges from municion.org and Barnes 8th ed:

Cartridge Rim Ø Base Ø Neck Ø Bullet Ø Rim width Case length Cart. length
.46 Extra Short
municion.org
0.53 0.458 0.458 0.456 0.061 0.633 1.115
.46 Short short case
municion.org
0.531 0.456 0.458 0.458 0.062 0.787 1.361
.46 Short long case
municion.org
0.53 0.46 0.46 0.457 0.059 0.859 1.32
.46 Carbine short case
municion.org
? ? ? ? ? 0.992 ?
.46 Carbine long case
.46 Long Rifle
.46 Remington Carbine
.46 Geiger
municion.org
0.534 0.46 0.46 0.453 0.063 1.104 1.872
.46 Long
municion.org
0.528 0.458 0.458 0.444 0.062 1.248 1.879
.46 Long
Barnes
0.523 0.456 0.456 0.454 ? 1.250 1.876
.46 Rem. Carbine
Barnes
0.529 0.455 0.455 0.455 ? 0.990 1.635
.46 Extra Short
Barnes
0.530 0.458 0.458 0.456 ? 0.633 1.125
.46 Short
Barnes
0.530 0.458 0.458 0.456 ? 0.836 1.336
.46 Extra Long
Barnes
0.525 0.457 0.457 0.459 ? 1.534 2.285

The .46 Extra Long is a.k.a. .46 Ballard. The Ballard Kentucky rifles were chambered in .46 rimfire from Feb 1864. This is the first .46 rimfire cartridge I am aware of. Barnes says this cartridge originated after 1871 but this seems to be an oversight. Ref: The Official Gun Digest Book of Guns & Prices 2010, http://books.google.com/books?id=BvsNuzEiSmwC&pg=PA79.

It is interesting that the Barnes entry for the .46 Remington Carbine matches the municion.org listing for the .46 Carbine short case, whereas the most commonly manufactured case is the municion.org .46 Carbine long case at approx 1.1" length (e.g. these all appear to be 1.1" cases: http://www.oldammo.com/july11.htm). This cartridge is a.k.a. the .46 Geiger due to it being chambered in the Remington Split Breech Carbine, originally designed by Geiger: http://www.collegehillarsenal.com/shop/product.php?productid=1194. This carbine shipped in .46 cal from 1865.

StraightAsADie (talk) 04:46, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

THEY DID IT[edit]

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