Portal talk:Language/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Collaborators

This portal is maintained by
* Auslli
* Ikiroid
* Michkalas

Requested merge

I have requested that the new British language (Celtic) article be merged into the Welsh language article. Contribute at Talk:Welsh language. --Mais oui! 11:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Language of the month

I think we should avoid putting up languages that are already FAs here since they've already received plenty of attention. We should focus on articles on languages that are good, but haven't been properly peer reviewed and that could use a general upping of quality. And that would include both major languages like Spanish, smaller ones like Albanian or even extinct languages like Norn. Peter ^Isotalo 14:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC) how about a question of the month because i have a question. why does wikepedia allow people to edit things? what if i need information that is accurate, how am i supposed to know if someone really knows what they are talking about whe they edit something. i think this is kind of stupid

Portal watch

Um....is anyone really updating this portal anymore? I picked a featured pic and article for the month about halfway through August, which is somewhat embarassing. From now on, if I see no nominees for any of the sections of this portal I'll just find one. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 19:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Anymore? Did anyone ever? I don't think this portal ever got off the ground. —The preceding signed comment was added by Angr (talk • contribs). 19:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Would you, or anyone else reading this talkpage, be willing to help? The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Just come on the scene (here), have seen the comments (and their age) and will add the Portal to my watch list. I'm capable of maintaining Portals effectively.

Wiki User 68 ^{Bits 'n}^Bobs 00:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Although I can't help regularly, I made a few suggestions for the section "Did you know?" at Portal:Language/Did you know/Nominate. If you agree, I can update that part of the portal. Ι have created and I am looking after the Portal:Language of the greek wikipedia (under the username "Valentin"). It is a good idea to try to find someone to help regularly with this portal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Linguistics. --Michkalas 16:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'll add the first three on the nomination list for september. I'm also going to go looking for a good picture, so we can have things ready for September 1. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 19:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I also have 3 suggestions for images at Portal:Language/Picture of the month/Nominate.--Michkalas 20:04, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I like them a lot, but I have found one for the month of september (see Portal:Language/Picture of the month/September 2006). Do you think we should replace it with a nominee, or hold the nominees for october and november? The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

The one you have chosen for September is just fine. We can keep the rest for the months following September.--Michkalas 22:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

You should probably pick which one of those goes for the month of october, november, et cetrea, considering you found them! The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 19:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. Nominee images moved to archive.--Michkalas 21:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikiversity needs translators

Wikiversity is a new Wikimedia sister project. Wikiversity is establishing versions in several languages and is going to be holding multi-language discussions in order to develop policies. Wikiversity needs participants who can translate documents from one language into another language. Thanks for your help! --JWSchmidt 22:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

If I were you, I would take this to the language reference desk, few people ever come here. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Anyone mind putting a link to Wikiversity's School of Language and Literature on the Portal? The Jade Knight 06:15, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Proposed header image

How's this? I have a globe surrounded by the word "language" in various languages. It's actually bigger, I shrunk it in order to fit here. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 14:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, no comments for three days, so I'm adding it in. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 00:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi! You might be interested in taking a look at the related Czech and German Language Portals. They use sequences of header images. I quite liked the idea (btw, I created the Czech Language Portal that way myself, using the German one as a template). Just a thought, I'm not saying the English portal should look the same. Daniel Šebesta (talk • contribs) 00:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Fake language?

Please, can any expert visit Talk:Lutescan_language? I think it is a fake, but I'm not sure --83.44.190.62 14:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It seems that the problem has been since taken care of on the talkpage. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 06:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Add links to live streams as examples for the spoken language

Unter ==External links==, ===Live Streams (no musik)=== or similar we should try to add at least one link to a radio station broadcasting news and other cultural program spoken in that particular language, NO MUSIK. I personally would love to listen to a navajo/kisuaheli/korean/basque/etc. radio station for 5 minutes, it is not enough to just read about it! I want to actually hear it. Please NO MUSIK, I want pure spoken language. Opinions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.56.179.164 (talk) 13:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

At anyone who knows more about slavistics

I see here in Wikipedia that the polish variety silesian is called as a language. For all I know in Slavists never called it an language, it is just called a polish variety. Do anyone knows more about it? And also the article Silesians is to my knowledge wrong. It is true that some people declared themselfs as slilesians but it is a novelty in history. Ethnologists think the fact of the matter is because many poeple in Poland don't want call themselfs a Pole (perhaps because they are of another background than polish) or they are cosmopolitan thinkers or anti-patriots. There is a group of people who publicize a silesian ethnic group, too. But it is a small group and it don't reflact the verity.Sorry for my bad english--Plk (talk) 16:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

english language

is there any section can help of improving english language and speeling , i would like to improve it. thanks (Tpolo2008 (talk) 06:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)).

IPA-Question: Thai language

In article Royal Thai General System of Transcription there is a table "Criticism". The Thai letter จ is described as a "alveo-palatal affricate" (see: Voiceless alveolo-palatal affricate) with the IPA image of [ tɕ ]. As far as I understand that letter it is rather a Voiced postalveolar affricate with / ʤ / in IPA or maybe even a / dʑ /. Is this just a mistake of the IPA representation in "Royal Thai General System of Transcription" or do I have a thorough misunderstanding of the Thai language?

Is there somebody who can enlighten me? --hdamm (talk) 15:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Lexical knowledge

This article may have to be nominated for deletion or else rewritten. Alex contributing from L.A. (talk) 10:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Multilingual transliteration. 37 languages so far.

Dear all, it is my first message in a talk page, so, any advice is welcome. We have developed a multilingual transliteration tool that enables its user to type in 37 alphabetic languages. To be short. Besides not Latin based scripts (Russian, Arabic, Greek etc.) every Latin based scripts has its special characters. Here are only small part of them: ä, à, á, â, ă, æ, å, ą, ā, ã, ạ, ằ All this special characters are essential for their languages, but normally are not available for those traveling without laptop. The tool is here: http://ok-boatd.com It is free to use. The mentioning under External Links of your articles is welcome. Any advice or help are awaited. Thanks a lot.

Sincerely,

Tcherser (talk) 11:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)Serge Tcherniak (tcherser@gmail.com

Getting a language page's rating changed?

Hello! This isn't so important, but I ran into a page on the Iban language today that's marked as a Stub but I feel is at least a Start if not class C. Is there some mechanism for changing a rating?

Note that I have no dog in this fight other than having today made a few edits to the Englihs and added a few more correspondences to Malay - in fact, I never heard of this language before an hour ago. :-D

Thanks in advance!

Tom Ritchford tom.ritchford@gmail.com/tom@swirly.com

TomRitchford (talk) 17:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Done

Done--Auslli (talk) 11:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Lebanese Arabic

Lebanese Arabic is in need of attention. It lacks sources making it impossible to verify the information, and this article was tagged from April 2007 meaning it could go for deletion. Also the length and the material are just disappointing for what should be an interesting article. Please make this article a priority. thanks --Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 21:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The article has been added to the Language articles that need attention.--Auslli (talk) 11:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Help, Extremaduran language

Would you correct the errors in the article Extremaduran language, In my opinion that article has many unnecesaries citations needed. --El estremeñu (talk) 20:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

...I copied it here from my discussion page: Hopefully, you will be able to help him better. --Franta Oashi (talk) 17:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow...

This portal is kind of dead, eh? Senorelroboto (talk) 05:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Link to Project - Wikipedia:WikiProject Languages

Is necessary to add link to Project - Wikipedia:WikiProject Languages on the Portal's Page? + some links to other Projects. --Averaver (talk) 11:53, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Act of destroying other language

what is the term for Act of destroying other language & merger it by using only english — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wananases (talk • contribs) 10:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

ISO search box

Added the ISO search box. Looks like PotatoBot might run again soon to update these to 2013. Of the 8,000 codes from last year, only 200 don't yet have an appropriate article. — kwami (talk) 22:05, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Universals?

The introductory section says i.a.:

Though there are thousands of human languages, they all share a number of properties from which there are no known deviations.

Humans have also invented (or arguably in some cases discovered) many other languages, including constructed human languages such as Esperanto or Klingon, programming languages such as Python or Ruby, and various mathematical formalisms. These languages are not restricted to the properties shared by natural human languages.

I think it would be very helpful to have some sort of indication (perhaps through a link) to what the "properties from which there are no known deviations" are or may be. I would also like to know in what ways (as a fluent speaker of it, I can't think of any) Esperanto is not restricted to the properties shared by natural human languages"... Lumping Esperanto (or even Klingon) in with programming languages and mathematical "formalisms", in contradistinction to "natural human" languages, strikes me as very NPOV. --Haruo (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

NPOV, are you sure ?

--Nnemo (talk) 15:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that was really really bad. I rewrote it, trying to keep as much of the original as possible while providing better links and deleting nonsense like the stuff Haruo pointed out. — kwami (talk) 22:25, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

language of the month

i think that there are some technical issues: i tried editing the "language of the month" section and it just won't work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gelophile (talk • contribs) 12:40, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

The portal was coded to display the "April 2013" page, since no-one has been creating the monthly pages. I've changed it to display the current month's page. I'll undo your {{db-author}} request so that you can see the result. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:28, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Random subpages?

Would anyone mind if I re-arranged these old monthly sub-pages into numbered subpages to be displayed via {{Random portal component}}}? Then the portal could be left to run itself. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:33, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks! I was wondering if something like that would be possible, since the portal looks extremely neglected. I think it's a great idea, but there would still be some minor "problems", like the fact that some pages appear twice (the split infinitive among the language topics, or that some language topics of the month are actually languages rather than topics (see Old English in the current version of the portal), and in general, the overall quality of the pages could be quite easily improved. Would it be possible to create a new list of subpages, which could then be numbered and be displayed via {{Random portal component}}}? In the meantime, the old monthly sub pages could be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gelophile (talk • contribs) 17:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I could set up the framework with, say, three random languages, pictures and topics - I've done this to several other portals - and then you, I or anyone else could add others. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Great! Let's do that than, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gelophile (talk • contribs) 07:12, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, I'll tackle this tomorrow. Sundays are busy. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Done I hope the instructions are clear enough. When creating a new page, remember to include a link in the edit summary to say where the text is coming from - see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for more on that. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

It's perfect, thanks. Would it be possible to do something similar for the Did You Know section as well? Gelophile (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'll set that up too. Ideally the "facts" in a portal's DYK section should have appeared in the DYK section of the main page. I've found 78 of those using a toolserver query; see User:John of Reading/Sandbox. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:00, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

(More)

Done Ten sets of four facts which have all appeared on the main page. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Vector image

I have uploaded a vector image equivalent for File:Globelang.png at: File:Globelang.svg. Please verify and update the portal. --ElectroKid (☮ • ✍) 19:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)