Talk:The Edukators

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Major plot expansion[edit]

I just rewrote the plot section. It's now really long. Perhaps too long. Then again the plot for the Matrix is even longer, so it's probably ok. Great movie by the way, especially the ending. Ungovernable Force^{The Wiki Kitchen!} 08:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretations of the Ending[edit]

Reading the discussion page on the German language article, there seems to be some debate regarding Hardenberg's role in the end. While the obvious idea is that Hardenberg turned on the three, and betrayed them to the police, some see his role as more positive. They think that Hardenberg gave them money to escape, and allowed them the use of his boat. He then informed the police in order to cover himself. The note 'Some people never change' does not accuse him of falling back into his 'old ways' as a capitalist, but acknowledges his even older roots as a revolutionary. Maybe somebody could include that?Az Reel 10:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im not registered on this site but i believe the plot overview is wrong. From what i remember, the police raid Jule's old apartment, the one she was kicked out of. Meanwhile the 3 Edukators are in the other apartment sleeping. The camera does not reveal that the police are at a different apartment until the police break in.

They are woken up by room service. So they are clearly in a hotel. And then you see them on a boat sailing off into the Mediterrenean. They wear expensive new clothing, and the boat belongs to Hardenberg (his boating licence can be seen for a moment).76.20.132.253 16:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In reference to the beginning of the plot - Jule does not move in with the two guys - she just moves into a different apartment. 129.81.27.106 21:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It should be represented in some way on here as what it is - ambiguous. 78.144.110.203 16:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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SOUNDTRACK[edit]

Jeffy buckley´s version of hallelujah was part of the soundtrack not "lucky jims" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408777/soundtrack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.0.55.221 (talk) 08:17, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The original ending: why was it changed?[edit]

I saw this movie in a cinema in Germany, and I clearly remember the endings with the boat headed to hack the TV signal towers. In fact I remember it so well that it has stuck with me all these years. So I am disappointed to read that the ending was changed for the DVD version. The German page, under "Trivia," says that the director wanted to keep the original ending but changed it due to "requests," but it can still be found on the DVD. It doesn't specify why or by whom. I wondered if it had something to do with concerns about terrorism, especially in the important U.S. market. This would be an interesting contribution if anyone's interested in researching this. In the meantime I have edited the language a bit to matter match the German version. 69.143.176.65 (talk) 01:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added a YouTube link with the original ending - not sure if WP will allow this to stay. The uploader offers an explanation why it was changed, but cites no sources. Despite a search in both English and German I could find no other info. I noticed the Netflix streaming version has the censored ending. That's a shame, because for me it was the original ending that made this movie memorable. 69.143.176.65 (talk) 02:10, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Delldot (talk · contribs) 21:44, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is well written, well-cited and, it seems to me, comprehensive. The images check out. I can't see any reason not to pass it as is (incredibly rare for me, usually I'm a bastard reviewer). I do have a couple suggestions, you can work on it as you see fit in your own time.

The two sections at the end are very short. Ideally you'd flesh out the prose or incorporate the info somewhere else in the article (and IIRC no see also section is better). If it would be possible to expand the impact section that would be great.

This sentence is awkward: Weingartner said he received an offer for "which I would not have to work for the rest of my life" from an American studio

This sentence is awkward: In the film's home countries it grossed $4,540,541 and $479,678 in Germany and Austria, respectively.

To really go above and beyond, you could crop the images in that table so all the faces are the same size.

You should mention in the lead that not all the critical reception was universally positive.

Great work! delldot ∇. 21:44, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, delldot, many thanks for the review! I've applied (or at least tried to apply) your suggestions. The exception is the fourth one because... well, it may seem awkward but I didn't get it. Can you take a look at my edit and do the fourth suggestion? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 00:51, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great work! I just meant that the actors' faces in the table show up as being different sizes, and that could be changed by uploading cropped versions of the pictures. e.g. the first image contains more background so her face appears smaller when the pictures are the same size. If you cropped the photo to have less background, her face would appear the same size as the others in the table. But don't worry about that, it's really picky. delldot ∇. 01:40, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]