Talk:Ralph Thomas Scurfield

Photo request

I removed the template "reqphoto" as a photo has been added to the article. Wottnot (talk) 19:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

This is… terrible

I don't even know where to begin. This reads like a eulogy, not an encyclopedia article. I don't know how the original author knew him, but there's obviously some history there. Just take a look at this paragraph, which I removed as unsalvageable:

Scurfield was friendly, outgoing and well respected by all who knew him. He was a wonderful and dedicated family man. He and his wife Sonia raised seven children: Ralph Jr., Susan, Thomas, Katheryn, Sergei, Allan and John. Ralph was best known as a civic minded businessman and humanitarian. His legacy is remembered though his contributions and influence in establishing Nose Hill Park in Calgary, Scurfield Hall at the University of Calgary, the Calgary Flames, and the community centres he established throughout Calgary. Other contributions to the city he loved, and in which he and his wife Sonia raised seven children, are truly too numerous to mention.

He's obviously a fairly notable figure; otherwise, I'd be tempted to suggest deleting it and starting fresh. The article needs help. —INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 08:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

If IntrigueBlue truly wants to help, then he should not revert the good faith efforts of other editors who are trying to improve the article. On January 26, I was trying to improve the quality of the article by fighting vandalism and by using reliable sources. I removed vandalism added by NotRScurfield. My efforts were thwarted by IntrigueBlue who restored the false statements that were not supported any source. Further, the reference I removed (a lawyer's advertisement website) is not a reliable source as defined by policy at WP:RELIABLE and it did not support the preceding content in the article. I suggest that before IntrigueBlue reverts someone else's good faith edits he first check to confirm that the content he is restoring is verified by reliable sources. Poahcon (talk) 23:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

As you correctly observe, good faith is an important guideline in working to improve Wikipedia's content. I hope that you will act according to the same high standard as you expect of others.

My edit re-added a comment you had removed indicating that Scurfield's death was a result of triggering an avalanche by his failure to listen to a guide's instructions. Your subsequent edit replaced it with a statement that he was not at fault, supported with a citation that did not address the matter of fault. An “inescapable” avalanche is not the same as an “unavoidable” avalanche; it does not indicate that there was nothing that Scurfield (or anyone else) could have done to prevent his death.

In response to your request, I looked into the matter more, reviewing the originally-cited source and searching for additional sources. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the ruling itself online, but the summaries I did find (one of which, an article by a law professor at the University of Calgary, I have added as an additional citation) seem to indicate that Scurfield had been found to be at fault for failure to obey instructions. However, I was able to find no indications in the summaries that he was responsible for triggering the avalanche, so I have removed that statement.

I hope this meets with your satisfaction. —INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 03:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

References

I noticed a number of references are the url to a Google Book link. I though editors might be interested in a tool which takes a link as input and creates a (usually) properly formatted ref.

Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books

I used it to improve one such reference.

It really helps creates a much cleaner list of references. I hope you will try it.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:40, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, I did the rest.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

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