Q: Aren't there claims online of a video that was uploaded before "Me at the zoo"?
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LunaEclipse, concerns have been raised over the copyright status of the video and as it was the lead hook, I've pulled it from queue. It needs to be promoted again, but can't include the video, unless we come to the conclusion that the license is ok after all. Schwede66 22:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After concerns were raised on WT:DYK about the copyright status, I've posted to the commons about this video: [1]Rjjiii (talk) 02:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Videos attract huge views, and I recommend waiting until we have an answer.--Launchballer 10:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I've replaced the video with an image of Karim. It's going to take a while for a consensus on the upload's copyright to form anyways. 🌙Eclipse(talk)(contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I won't use that image per WP:DYKIMG. Just noting here that, while the hook should technically have an end-of-sentence citation, ALT0 is clearly a summary of the rest of that paragraph and the alternative's potentially a {{clump}}, so I'm minded to IAR - but is there a source available?--Launchballer 18:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Launchballer, Davest3r08, LunaEclipse, and Schwede66: I've removed this from the queue again, as it doesn't look like the issue of the video's copyright has been resolved yet. I think before this runs, we need to either (a) remove the video from the article, or (b) ascertain that there's a consensus somewhere that its copyright status is valid. As far as I could tell from the discussion last time, we were minded to reject the video's certification given that Lapitsky recorded it, not Karim. I'd think without definitive knowledge that Lapitsky's intention was to release it under that licence, and with it not even being under that licence any more anyway, this is pretty dubious... — Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added my 2c to the discussion on Commons. That said, I'm not sure that's quite the right venue for that discussion; it should have been put up for deletion. Schwede66 21:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]