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A barnstar for you!

	The Hard Worker's Barnstar
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June 2024

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. Fram (talk) 12:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

How was this an "attack page?" It was written from a Neutral point of view, without any opinionated negative wording being used towards either the victim or perpetrator. Secondly, look at this old version of the Vallow–Daybell doomsday murders, the page was about the murders, but it included information about the perpetrators before their trials even started and only had 2 references, yet it wasn't labeled as a G10 criteria for deletion for being an "attack page." Also, what's the reason for this abusive language being used in the deletion feed (1 2)? Christophervincent01 (talk) 20:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

You have recently made edits related to articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. This is a standard message to inform you that articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles is a designated contentious topic. This message does not imply that there are any issues with your editing. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see Wikipedia:Contentious topics. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I want to be as clear as possible about this, edits about WP:BLPs describing them as having committed crimes in wiki-voice without any conviction are severe violations. Additionally, WP:BLPCRIME says that we should generally be avoiding naming non-public figures who have been accused of crimes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of an attack page

A page you created has been deleted because it was a biography of a living person that was entirely negative in tone and unsourced, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create articles about living people that are entirely negative in tone and unsourced. Wikipedia has a policy of verifiability and any negative information we use must be reliably sourced, and our articles must be balanced. Negative, unreferenced biographies of living people are not tolerated by Wikipedia and users who create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policy may be blocked from editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:20, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

How was this an "attack page?" It was written from a Neutral point of view, without any opinionated negative wording being used towards either the victim or perpetrator. It also had 20 references spaced throughout the article, so it isn't unsourced. Thirdly, look at this old version of the Vallow–Daybell doomsday murders, the page was about the murders, but it included information about the perpetrators before their trials even started and only had 2 references, yet it wasn't labeled as a G10 criteria for deletion for being an "attack page." Christophervincent01 (talk) 20:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I've responded on my talk page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

A deep breath, and let's try this again

So, it's definitely shitty to get kicked in the teeth by BLP enforcers, and I'm not going to act like I'm not one of the ones who was doing the kicking. I came on so strong about this because it is, in my view, the most important policy on Wikipedia. All of the back and forth dealing is Israel and Palestine, Iranian manipulation of articles, the endless wars over if a politician is right-wing or far-right don't really matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. When dealing with BLP content dealing with non-public figures, however, Wikipedia will invariably be the first thing that shows up if someone searches for their name. In this situation we can have a clear negative effect on a person's life. That is why we have to take the utmost care in dealing with biographies.

It's easy to look at the news stories and say "Well, he did it," but acquittals happen all the time, people are framed, there are miscarriages of justice, and all sorts of other weird stuff happens. That is why WP:BLP and WP:BLPCRIME exist, so that we don't cause any harm. Even when convicted of one thing, we still must be careful to not assign guilt to anything that hasn't been proven. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)