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Philosophy[edit]

I observed a new change in philosophy of narayana guru to vedantha. Yes i agree that he was a advaitha vedhanthin from his work athmopadesha shathakam , but he also supports for duality as seen from his first verse. he never explicitly said he support any philosophy but it can be seen from his works. I too oppose the idea of putting 'one caste one religion one god' as his philosophy because it is just a low level philosophy/thought when taking his work as a whole.

Also one thing shold be mentioned here is that he also said ' my religion is also bhudhism' , so putting vedanta as his philosophy , i dont thing it is apt. I know narayana guru was from siddha tradition of rishis , his work from suppport advaitha and daitha in some place also, he even told in the last verse of athmopadesha shatakam than the universe or brahman along with out athma is so complex and cannot be explained by words or human understandable ideas.

What do you think here @ChandlerMinh: Ningalonnichpovuka (talk) Ningalonnichpovuka (talk) 16:29, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Either keep that empty or add all philosophies. ChandlerMinh (talk) 07:30, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism -Controversy as a defining speech[edit]

Hi, Sree narayana guru is the father of Kerala renaissense , a spiritual orator and a saint . However a court order regarding a land dispute is used as a definition of sree narayana guru . Considering the language I am pretty sure this is done by haters to degrade him . The statement goes like this : " There was a rumor about Narayana Guru that he is a god, but in reality, he is not a god. He is an Indian social reformer. The statue of Narayana Guru cannot be treated as a deity, the Kerala High court observed.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Narayana Guru Not An Avatar Of God: Kerala High Court . "

There are millions of God in India itself and there is no proof of them being god , god is not science but a belief . The high court ruled that he cannot be considered as an avatar of Vishnu as claimed by some ,since avatar is a Hindu concept and his statue cannot be considered as diety . This had nothing to do with anyone being god or not. As I said gos is a belief of a group of people. This sentence is twisted to define a great person that too as a defining paragraph . I have moved this to a subsection. please resist such hate spewing attempts Wannabesomething123 (talk) 18:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Constant Revision[edit]

I have noticed that a certain paragraph regarding this person being worshiped as or seen as equal to god or not , and an indian state high court order regarding the same is being pulled into the main section .

The reason why it do not fit there , 1) The definition of god changes from religion to region , every religion tends to devalidate others god being god ,doesnt mean that they cannot worship whatever they want . Noone can impose anyones religious ideology on others. In south asia aninals to naturak resources are considered as god. Also the sources are from indian news portals , it says that he cannot be considered as a hindu avatar or a hindu diety. It have nothing to do with the concept of god outside hindu concept nor it devalidates it.also these rulings have limited validity in a global perspective . Hence you cannot use it to prove anyone being god or not or the existence of god. Regarding the court ruling it seems well acknowledged in the section . 'In popular Media '. Bilgiljilll (talk) 18:23, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Name change 'Narayana Guru' to 'Sree Narayana Guru'[edit]

The name is Sree Narayana guru and not Narayana guru. A just a google results will reveal this. These are references from leading news articles from India on the name Sree Narayana guru. Infact the organizatiosn like SNDP and other organziations formed under his name has this 'sree'.

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Requesting to change the name of the article. Afv12e (talk) 23:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article missing many reformations done by Sree Narayan Guru[edit]

The article is missing many reformations done by sree narayan guru. Most of that is incidents or events rather than a movement. Most of the references are in Malayalam language and is from Sree Narayana Dharma Paripalana Yogam sites. Just wondering those sources can be taken here. If else someone please add sources and mile stones here , so that we can discuss and add those. Afv12e (talk) 17:06, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]