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List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross[edit]

Promoted --Eurocopter (talk) 08:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): MisterBee1966 (talk)
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I am nominating this article for A-Class review because taking this FL-Class article to A-Class hopefully is just little more than a formality. MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments. While I tend to think FLs and FAs should be automatically granted A-Class, I do have a few brief comments on this one:
    • "The following soldiers and servicemen were awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross or one of its higher grades as a foreigner to the German Wehrmacht as well as the Waffen SS and police units." One would expect the list to follow more or less immediately after this, but it doesn't actually come for a few paragraphs. Rephrase?
    • The lead could probably use an outside copyedit, some bits of it were hard to follow, but I don't think there's anything about the flow that falls short of A-Class, so this is more of a general suggestion.
    • The lead could probably provide a better summary of the list. For example, it would be useful to discuss the nationality of the recipients (just adding them up and saying "The recipients came from X country. Country Y had the most with Z" or some such).
    • How about some images of the recipients? A very quick check reveals that free images are available of most of them. You might want to consider a column with pictures (as is fairly common in FLs of pictures) or perhaps just putting a few out to the side of the table. Cool3 (talk) 20:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added some pictures. However the Victoria Cross lists don't have any pictures either and they are all FLCs too. I also believe to have addressed your other concerns, so please check again MisterBee1966 (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • I agree with Cool3 that the lead does require a bit of a copyedit, as the prose is a little mixed and does not fit well in some places.
  • I am uncomfortable with the foreign recipients being constantly referred to as "soldiers and servicemen" as these words imply they were in the army when this is not the case with all of the recipients listed, for example Isoroku Yamamoto was a senior naval officer.
  • The Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross only needs to be linked once in the lead; it is linked twice in successive paragraphs at the moment.
  • I don't think the mention of Hans-Joachim Marseille is particularly necessary.
  • As you have begun to add images of the recipients to the table, it would be best to add as many recipients’ images as possible. I know that a few of the recipients without an image in the table actually have a photograph on Wikipedia.
  • I think it would be best if each table was uniform to each other. The columns in each table are slightly different in size, and it would be nice if all related columns in the tables are the same width.

Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Again I believe that I have addressed the issues. Regarding prose changes, I actively seek help here since English is not my native language. MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have struck my above comments which I believe have been adequately addressed. In regards to the prose, I think your best bet would be to obtain the services of a good copyeditor. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 09:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding the width of columns: I have applied the everything I read here Help:Table#Width, height. Here it reads "Note that style="inline CSS" has no effect with some browsers. If compatibility is important, equivalent older constructs like width="75%" should work on more browsers". Since the columns look very much aligned on my browser, I fear that total alignment may not be achievable. How shall I proceed? MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, if that's the best you can do, than that is okay. Well done! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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