Talk:Basic Hanja for Educational Use

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Giant table[edit]

67.6.252.87, you need to stop adding the enormous table of hanja without consensus. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, not an indiscriminate collection of information. It is 250kB of characters, which is significant and may affect some users' ability to read the article. Also, you cannot cite Wikipedia, even in other languages, as a source. — Remsense诉 00:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think we could add a table just listing the character minus the meanings and readings, similarly to the list on the Korean Wikipedia page? That way, there's not a gigantic table, but there can still be hanja which people can click on to go to the corresponding Wiktionary page. Just food for thought, but let me know what you think! Best regards, Theeddiebear888 (talk) 23:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at it, the table on the Chinese Wikipedia might be better, since it seems more compact. Theeddiebear888 (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultimately, Wikipedia is not a dictionary (though obviously policies differ between different language editions), so maybe this is best done on Wiktionary itself. Remsense诉 23:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of characters[edit]

A previous edit blanked the entire section containing the list of 1800 Basic Hanja for Educational Use. User:Theeddiebear888 clearly invested a ton of work toward providing the list for reference analogous to the Mandarin and Japanese versions of this article and did an outstanding job providing linguistic context for the benefit of English-languages users of Wikipedia who are unfamiliar with Chinese characters (unlike Mandarin and Japanese speakers who will have at least some familiarity with Chinese characters), and IMHO it would be a shame to completely throw out this very useful info which was clearly put together so carefully and meticulously.

I agree with User:Remsense and User:Ltbdl that the list is way too long and bulky to include inline and so reformatted it to collapse it and make it more compact to make the main article more readable, while not just blanking/discarding the entire section completely so that readers interested in that level of detail (which is why they probably came to this article in the first place) can still have access to it, just like the Mandarin and Japanese versions of this article, and also in order to allow a potentially motivated Wikipedia user to complete the table at some point, which so far is outstanding. Also, my apologies if my revert to User:Remsense’s version lost any good-faith intervening edits in the process, though I tried my best to catch/include those that I noticed. Thanks to User:Remsense and User:Ltbdl for making the article way more readable, and props of course to User:Theeddiebear888 for putting so much effort into Wikipedia in the first place. —Arrandale Westmere (talk) 14:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a directory. This is not what an encyclopedia article is, it's that simple. Put this on Wikisource or Wikiversity instead. Remsense诉 14:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously agree that Wikipedia is neither a dictionary nor a “directory,” but IMHO it seems reasonable that an article on Basic Hanja for Educational Use would at least list them, just as the Mandarin and Japanese versions of this article do; do you feel it is inappropriate for those versions to list them as well? Reformatted the table to make it more compact, and set it to be collapsed by default to make the article even more compact and readable than the Mandarin and Japanese versions of the article. Your thoughts on restoring the blanked section to bring this English-language version more in line with the Mandarin and Japanese versions of the article? Thanks, Arrandale Westmere (talk) 15:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]