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Errors in the northwest of the map[edit]
The nortwest portion of the map is rather confusing. Yudenich was present in the area only between June and November 1919 and commanded just 20,000 troops even at his prime. The British Fleet was only a minor force in the Baltic, involving just 120 servicemen. The main army in the region were the Estonian Defence Forces (see Estonian War of Independence) with 86,000 men from May 1919 to January 1920. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
- The 120 servicemen seems to refer to the casualties not to the service strength. Actual British naval presence on the Baltic Sea or rather in Gulf of Finland at the time consisted of several cruisers, destroyers, sloops-of-war, submarines, and even an aircraft carrier. They suffered nearly 120 losses actually. - Wanderer602 (talk) 05:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
- This is quite besides the point, still. The British forces were never the main one in the region and only supported the Estonian operations. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 10:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- They did blockade the St. Petersburg/Leningrad port and attacked it using CMBs with some success. So i would say their efforts went beyond than what just supporting the Estonian operations would have meant. You are right in that the British forces were never the main force in the region however they were the main (sole) naval force in the region opposing the Bolshevik naval forces and thus their presence in the area should not be ignored. Besides the map clearly states that there was British Fleet in the Baltic - not British land forces. - Wanderer602 (talk) 11:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- I am quite obviously not suggesting to remove the British fleet from the map. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 11:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- Then i must have misunderstood as to what you originally meant when you referred the British Fleet in the Baltic Sea. - Wanderer602 (talk) 14:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- I am quite obviously not suggesting to remove the British fleet from the map. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 11:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- They did blockade the St. Petersburg/Leningrad port and attacked it using CMBs with some success. So i would say their efforts went beyond than what just supporting the Estonian operations would have meant. You are right in that the British forces were never the main force in the region however they were the main (sole) naval force in the region opposing the Bolshevik naval forces and thus their presence in the area should not be ignored. Besides the map clearly states that there was British Fleet in the Baltic - not British land forces. - Wanderer602 (talk) 11:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- This is quite besides the point, still. The British forces were never the main one in the region and only supported the Estonian operations. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 10:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
