Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Irish music

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I think we should really just stick to the picture of U2, they're iconically Irish and symbolise the most well known Irish act in the world. I feel the harp is really unneccessary there and detracts from the page. Perhaps it could be inserted somewhere else?
Regards, --RavensFists (talk) 19:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Seriously the picture of U2 is enough, some sort of collage of "Irishness" is just not going to look attractive or coherent in any way. --RavensFists (talk) 19:28, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Resolved (I think?) --candle•wicke 20:53, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Resolved. --RavensFists (talk) 21:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

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Bell X1

FYI, I've asked Bell X1 to be retargetted to Bell X-1 at WP:RFD. 76.66.194.183 (talk) 04:17, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Redirect note

Fight Like Apes Live At The Eurosonic‎ has now been redirected to the band. --candle•wicke 03:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Infobox note

Noting that an IP has altered "origin" in the infobox of several bands, e.g. The Saw Doctors article now claims they are from the city of Galway instead of Tuam. A matter to investigate later. --candle•wicke 01:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Hiatus

Hiatus = is/are or Hiatus = was/were ?

The Duckworth Lewis Method article is in the past tense and it says they are on hiatus. The Blizzards article is in the present tense and they too are on hiatus. One must be incorrect? --candle•wicke 02:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

"City of Blinding Lights" FAC

Hello all, I would just like to inform you that "City of Blinding Lights" is currently undergoing an FAC. I was told the last time that an article I nominated failed to be promoted that in future I should "aggressively recruit music editors to review [the] FAC". I'm not looking for votes, only for feedback, and I thought that posting this notification on the relevant subject's talk page (since the WikiProject is now inactive) would be the best way to go about that; I apologize if I have done so incorrectly. A similarly-worded notification has also been placed at WT:SONGS and Talk:U2. Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 00:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Well done on the promotion! ;-) --candle•wicke 02:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

This really is a great article which deserves featured status. Well done to the author(s) :) --Footyfanatic3000 ^{(talk  · contribs)} 18:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Great article - congrats! Hohenloh ⁺ 19:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks everyone; a related article is also up for nomination now, so if anyone is able to leave any feedback as to how the article may be improved it would be very much appreciated. Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 05:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Pony Club (band)

Should be classified here? Wohz (talk) 07:39, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes. --candle•wicke 23:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

New table to help the newbies

Pls if you like add this to your project page!!..Moxy (talk) 17:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

?	Use common sense. Ultimately, assume good faith on the part of others, be bold in editing because perfection is not required. See Wikipedia:Editing policy for more information. Before starting a new article! - Notability is a concern that must be adhered to. See Wikipedia:Notability (music) for more information. Need help starting a new article? See Wikipedia:Article wizard it will help you through the process of submitting a new article to Wikipedia.
I.	Use references. This is an encyclopedia, so remember to include a ==References== section listing websites, newspapers, articles, books and other sources you used to write the article. New articles and statements added to existing articles may be deleted if unreferenced or referenced poorly. See Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Cite_sources and Wikipedia:References for more information.
II.	Use proper spelling and grammar. This is a very important aspect of an article. There is helpful guidelines in regards to styles. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music) for more information.
III.	Use footnotes. Take advantage of the footnote ability Wikipedia has, instead of including html links inside the context include them as footnotes. See Wikipedia:Footnotes on how to use them.
IV.	Write a good lead. Be sure to write a lead that concisely summarizes the entire article into one or two paragraphs, which make sense to someone who may know nothing about the subjects in question. See Wikipedia:Lead section for more information.
V.	Stay on topic. Many articles are criticized for length; sticking to the subject matter helps eliminate this. See Wikipedia:The perfect article for more information.
VI.	Keep it simple. Remember that the average reader should be able to comprehend the erudition. Although you should use a broad vocabulary of regular, non-technical terms, do not provide such a quantity of locutions as to impel those who aspire to derive serviceable information from the article to consult a dictionary.
VII.	Use images if possible. Images enhance articles greatly, but only use them when they are necessary, and ensure that their copyright status has been specified and we are allowed to use it on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Images

Thank you. :D --candle•wicke 02:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject scope and Irish Traditional Music

I think there's a major point of ambiguity regarding the scope of this WikiProject. Does it, or does it not include, topics relating to the genre "Irish Traditional Music", to the point of including musicians who play within the "ITM" genre, but have never resided in Ireland, and may not have any Irish lineage? If not, where is the distinction made?

Example: I recently created a Joanie Madden article. She plays ITM, is Irish-American, and has won musical competitions in Ireland. Yet, she's a lifetime New Yorker. Does her article fall in the scope of this project?

Dereksmootz (talk) 18:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

If she plays Irish music, I don't see why her article can't be included. Hohenloh ⁺ 00:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. I'll go ahead and add the project's banner to this sort of article, and include a note on the talk page explaining my reasoning. Dereksmootz (talk) 13:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

A request for input

Could someone knowledgeable weigh in on the discussion at Talk:Uilleann_pipes#Etymology? Thank you. Corvus cornix_talk 00:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Vicar Street: Suggestions?

I'm looking at the Vicar Street article when I get time (which hasn't been for a long while!), just wondering if anyone could offer any constructive criticism on it over on its Talk page or here. I know it needs work, just trying to think of what the next most important information to work towards should be — It's been given a rating by the Irish music project (Start), so thought you might have some ideas? =) Cheers, Dave (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Ready to publish?

I am in doubt about my article about Nell Galvin. I think she will pass WP:GNG but the sourcing is a bit weak. For more sources I have to hit a library and an archive, but this season is not the best for it. Would you consider it ready for publishing? Night of the Big Wind _talk 20:29, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Anyone interested in these articles?

Would anyone be interested in chipping in on the following articles? Mary Dillon, At First Light, John McSherry (musician), Cathie Ryan, Eithne Ní Uallacháin or Karan Casey? :-) Filastin (talk) 01:32, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Vital articles

There is a discussion occuring here regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the Wikipedia project. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:08, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Part of a canvassing run. The Banner talk 00:27, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Portal:U2 for peer review

• Portal:U2

Miss Bono and myself have requested a portal peer review for Portal:U2.
We would appreciate any helpful advice at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/U2/archive1.
Thanks in advance and happy editing! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Hozier (musician)

Just started. Info box put up. Busy over the next couple of days any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Murry1975 (talk) 11:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Altan stuff

Would anyone care to comment at Talk:Altan (band)#Timeline? I made and explained what was intended to be constructive improvements to the article's timeline, which were reverted with no reason given (as of now, the other editor has at least responded at the above section). I'd like to hear from other interested editors. Thanks! --Fru1tbat (talk) 23:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Template:Irish music

Here I am in discussion about the move of Template:Irish music to Template:Music of Ireland. The explanation"parallelism" says absolutely nothing to me and I also fail to see any prior discussion about the move. In the discussion the mover clearly focuses on the people, not on the playing style. It would be handy when more people get involved in this discussion. The Banner talk 13:16, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

2020 resurrection of project

any lurkers watchers still around ? hope to encourage revitalisation of the project - hopefully the rejig will be supported !!! JarrahTree 05:04, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I have been writing/editing articles relating to Irish classical music (composers, musicians, musicologists, organisations, ...) for a good while and still do so. But I admit I haven't thought about using the group's template in most of these articles. Will revisit and add where useful. – Aklein62 (talk) 08:24, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@JarrahTree and Aklein62: Hi! I'm just coming across this project for the first time now, but I recently wrote Talisk and Ímar (band), and I've noticed that many other newer notable Celtic/Celtic-adjacent bands are missing pages (Elephant Sessions was recently mentioned to me, and Hò-rò is another). Thankfully, the Irish music journalism scene seems to be surviving (we'll see if that lasts past the pandemic...), so sources are pretty easy to find. Should we perhaps go through some of the recent awards history and compile a list of bands that need pages? I'd also love to get contra dance and ceili dance in better shape someday. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 09:57, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

please - any action to improve and keep it running - if there are things that have not be linked or included - please! any clues for fellow editors, please leave here to share what might need help with - thank you both for responding. JarrahTree 10:45, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Jake Burns for deletion

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User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

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Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

The Mary Wallopers and Anglophobia

Hi all, I'm just dropping this message on all of the WikiProjects associated with The Mary Wallopers. An IP editor has been repeatedly adding a line to the article describing their musical style as Anglophobia. I have been repeatedly removing these inclusions as I do not believe the source a) is reliable enough or b) discusses the supposed Anglophobia in sufficient detail to warrant its inclusion.

There is an active Talk Page discussion which both myself and the IP editor have commented on today. I would value your input either way on this discussion as I really just want to stop edit warring with this other user. Thanks. Xx78900 (talk) 23:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

[cross posted] You’re jumping to the conclusion that Anglophobia equals “hate”. It is incontrovertible that, for wholly understandable historical and geopolitical reasons, there is a general aversion, hostility, or disdain for England and English people in Ireland. That does not mean that anyone is accusing anyone else of hate speech (or music for that matter). 2A00:23C6:7682:F101:B9BC:7F47:C3CA:6F67 (talk) 08:39, 16 March 2024 (UTC)