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Note: This is an archived page of Clueless newbies. Please do not edit this page. If you wish to "re-nominate" someone or comment on him/her, please list it at the current page, noting that the user has been listed before. Thanks!

Here you can browse users previously listed as clueless newbies See Wikipedia:Clueless newbies/Archive for more archives.

Instructions for Archivers[edit]

  1. Distinguish between active and inactive requests. A good rule of thumb is: if the listing is over one month old, archive it.
  1. Add newly archived material to the top of the list, in date order from the date of the original listing. (Oldest on the bottom, newest on the top.) This way, users will not need to scroll past multiple years of archives to find the newest archive.
  1. If the user's talk link is still red, consider offering a welcome before archiving.


Archives[edit]

Self Nominations[edit]

  • Having problems with my user talk page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Moyes - it says the database cannot find it and I should report it to an administrator. Problem is though, when I go to the administrator page none of the choices seem remotely appropriate. Could someone give me a hand getting my page back or reporting it to an administrator who can? Ian Moyes 10:55, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I responded on Ian's talk page. --Deathphoenix 14:57, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • I am a little bit confused over editing long articles. When I see that the article is longer than 32 kilobytes, I see that some of the article has been cut off. I'm choosing "edit this page", not editing individual sections. Can you please help me? Thanks. Oklonia 01:52, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Responded on user's talk page. Flcelloguy 00:48, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I have no ability to tell whether I am vandalizing a page or adding information that may be useful. I have already made some edits, thankfully my idiocies were checked immediately. Could someone please put my IP on a watchlist to check on my edits make sure I don't do more stupid stuff? My IP is 183.92.190.255, and I am signed in as User:pookleblinky. (from 30 Nov 2004)
Responded on user's talk page. Flcelloguy 00:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • confused about searching: I wanted to look for all things to do with criticality, so I entered "critical" in the search box but ended up in an article on "critic" which has nothing to do with physics (I expected a list of entries like "critical point", "critical line", "critical phenomena", "criticality", "critical opalescence" etc.) Ar 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Press "search" instead of "go". See Wikipedia:Searching and Wikipedia:Go button. Angela. 22:27, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
Also, if you check back here, use Google or Yahoo search engines and enter "wikipedia AND term", where "term" is of course the thing you're interested in finding. WikiUser 16:27, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • on my talk page I got two people telling me how to sign - but apart from talk page entries, votes, etc., what else should one sign? Ar 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Talk pages, votes and the Village pump are the only places you need to sign (not articles). The tip about signing is just a standard greeting to newcomers, and is not meant to imply you have been doing it wrong. Angela. 22:27, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
  • Formatting: how do you deal with, e.g., commands in some computer language? Usually, those are put in monospaced font in publications, and I find texts without those distinctions barely readable. Ar 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 Use one or more initial spaces to force monospace output, like I did in this reply.

(For actual indentation, you're supposed to use colons.) --Ardonik 05:10, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)

You can also surround the text with <pre> tags
This is inside 
 pre tags
  for [[example]]
The difference is that lines with a space at the start will still process the wiki markup. Text inside pre tags will ignore it, which is why "example" above is not a link. Angela. 22:27, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

Nominations of Others[edit]

159.247.237.10[edit]

Is beginning to show a concerning pattern of edits. Their last few edits have been pure vandalisim, whole pages were replaced with less than witty joke pages (e.g., Bioalcohol ).

If you look at 159.247.237.10's history, the majority of his edits are pure vandalism. I only started on Wikipedia a little while ago, so I'm unsure about what the next step is-- does this guy's IP address get promoted to a "list of vandals" page? At what point is he blocked? Emiao 00:58, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User: 68.43.238.253[edit]

68.43.238.253 (talk · contribs)

  • Experimented in the Macintosh LC 575 page, pressing all the toolbar buttons, over and over, probrably had some fun... :) CoolFox 00:26, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

User:66.121.167.20[edit]

66.121.167.20 (talk · contribs)

  • Adding vanity articles, in addition adding birthdates for vanity entries in MMM_DD date pages. --Tabor 18:28, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User:Afmareck[edit]

Afmareck (talk · contribs)

  • This user wrote something that looks like an autobiography: Anne Mareck. Keeps inserting her signature to articles despite being reverted multiple times, blanks own contributions. Before sending Chatanika River Women's Colony to VfD, I would ask someone to help her with Wikiediting. jni 15:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:67.171.237.88[edit]

67.171.237.88 (talk · contribs)

  • This user is making questionable edits to a number of articles. It looks like they're doing it in good faith though. 郵便箱 07:26, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

User:68.250.71.135[edit]

68.250.71.135 (talk · contribs)

User:Bobber2[edit]

Seems to be good-faith, but is adding copy-vio material, mainly Ed, Edd n Eddy episode summaries from TV Tome the wub (talk) 10:42, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:66.25.181.250[edit]

66.25.181.250 (talk · contribs)

User:80.60.125.214[edit]

80.60.125.214 (talk · contribs)

  • Has been adding various advertisement links to articles, for over several months. 61.94.149.237 10:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:Vizion[edit]

Vizion (talk · contribs)

User:202.8.252.166[edit]

202.8.252.166 (talk · contribs)

  • Good-faith clueless newbie. Added an assortment of misleading and useless info to the bottom of a few Pokémon pages, with poor spelling and formatting. Example: Posted one of the many rumors about how to acquire a rare creature through exceedingly difficult and arbitrary means, which is a common style of trap laid by trolls to string naïve players along. Might be a bit of a pain if it persists. - Dan Johnson 06:27, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC)
    • Only edits on April 7 2005; has not been back. Flcelloguy 19:09, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

User:68.79.21.71[edit]

68.79.21.71 (talk · contribs)

  • Creates substubs about various locations in Switzerland, utilizing pointless templates (such as Template:Dizy) and categories (such as Category:Safien). In addition, made editing experiments in Vaud, kept improperly marking articles about Switzerland cities as {{Switzerland-geo-stub}}, and inserting Switzerland-related information in the middle of Tenna. Appears to be a good-faith contributor, but has no idea what Wikipedia is about. - Mike Rosoft 12:34, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:203.94.238.52[edit]

Has created a number of articles on Bollywood movies, each linking to a commercial site webmallindia.com. Could someone explain them the finer points of copyright and wikipedia formatting? 131.211.208.29 12:33, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:172.157.125.156[edit]

Please look at Aesthetic Realism -- some POV additions with much editorializing. 172.157.125.156 (talk · contribs)

  • Has edited the content out of a few articles and replaced them with "{{stub}}". Might be really confused, might be vandalizing. Have left comment on his Talk page and reverted his bad edits. Others might want to keep an eye on him/her. - dcljr 05:54, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:68.188.96.16[edit]

68.188.96.16 (talk · contribs)

User:Pzkfw5[edit]

Pzkfw5 (talk · contribs)

User:Faethon and ~37 related accounts[edit]

Faethon0 (talk · contribs) FaethonX (talk · contribs) Faethon299,792,458 (talk · contribs) Faethon3.1415926535 (talk · contribs)

Faethon (talk · contribs) Faethon2 (talk · contribs) Faethon3 (talk · contribs) Faethon4 (talk · contribs) Faethon5 (talk · contribs) Faethon6 (talk · contribs) Faethon7 (talk · contribs) Faethon8 (talk · contribs) Faethon9 (talk · contribs) Faethon10 (talk · contribs) Faethon11 (talk · contribs) Faethon12 (talk · contribs) Faethon13 (talk · contribs) Faethon14 (talk · contribs) Faethon15 (talk · contribs) Faethon16 (talk · contribs) Faethon17 (talk · contribs) Faethon18 (talk · contribs) Faethon19 (talk · contribs) Faethon20 (talk · contribs) Faethon21 (talk · contribs) Faethon22 (talk · contribs) Faethon23 (talk · contribs) Faethon24 (talk · contribs) Faethon25 (talk · contribs) Faethon26 (talk · contribs) Faethon27 (talk · contribs) Faethon28 (talk · contribs) Faethon29 (talk · contribs) Faethon30 (talk · contribs) Faethon31 (talk · contribs) Faethon32 (talk · contribs) Faethon33 (talk · contribs) Faethon34 (talk · contribs) Faethon35 (talk · contribs) Faethon36 (talk · contribs) Faethon37 (talk · contribs) Faethon38 (talk · contribs)

User:Agquarx[edit]

I don't mind being called clueless newbie, but blatant lies I do not like. You forgot to mention, that we are the sole reason the article aboot Teresa Salgueiro exists at all. I agree with your opinion on Poland and datapackets, although as (for now) citizen of Poland I do know better what is going on here. As for ego surfing, well...there are people who comprehend irony and those who do not, I guess...Is there an article with this title now? Maybe I will check, I wasted too much time ego surfing today anyway...

User:Gearle0521[edit]

  • One of User's first activities on Wikipedia was to move African American to African American -- U.S. Lexicon. He then began deleting content from the article, claiming it was racist. When the content was reverted and the move undone, he then tried to list African American for VfD. Claims that only minorities are "allowed" to edit articles about minorities. Has been blocked for 24 hours, but an anon editor made the same VfD listing, and the User will probably attempt to make the same changes when he comes back from vacation. RickK 06:31, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

User:67.82.3.41[edit]

  • Repeated POV edits to Al Gore of his have been reverted and he is not pleased. Refuses to get a username but wants his IP hidden. Attempts at a friendly approach are not being well-received. Dbiv 22:07, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

User:209.205.49.163[edit]

  • Please watch 209.205.49.163, possibly any posts from 209.205.49.* in general. These would most likely be some of my students, who have discovered just how easy it is to mess with Wikipedia. A VERY big Thank You to User:Uriber for the speedy revert, which (hopefully) proved to my class how pointless it is to vandalize the Wikipedia.

13:39, 14 Jan 2005 Uriber m (rv anon) 13:36, 14 Jan 2005 209.205.49.163 I'm not sure if my school has a static IP or not. I'm hoping it does and this IP can be watched. Weaponofmassinstruction 02:38, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)


User:216.146.115.141[edit]

User:65.185.61.44[edit]

So far, a look into his contributions shows that the stuff added (mainly to fighting game articles) seems to have no basis in fact, and may in fact reflect their personal opinion. Some of their edits have even been since reverted.

MinorsForBush[edit]

(talk/contributions)

I feel almost wrong because I'm a newbie myself, but I certainly wouldn't classify this user as a vandal. This user has written numerous POV articles (although Winnie the Pooh is probably vandalism). -- Deathphoenix 00:44, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

63.229.217.138[edit]

(talk/contributions)

That user insists on adding large chunks of information concerning covers and tributes to the Kraftwerk group article. Thing is, the user is completely clueless (I hope) about the way Wikipedia works, and the way that info was added is surely not appropriate for the article. This is about to turn into a revert war, as the user refuses to aknowledge his mistakes, even after hearing about them (both via edit summaries and talk page). I suggest something to be done about this. – Kaonashi 18:52, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Kraftwerk article has been temporary protected. Nico Demonte was not protected, but the reverts were reverted. The person's edits are far few inbetween, and I just don't see a need to block the IP just yet. -- AllyUnion (talk) 05:02, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

198.189.198.2[edit]

Has been adding links to a website called "Find A Death" to the pages of several deceased celebrities. 207.62.186.254 23:37, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

User:Jobe6[edit]

Has reached "test4", has contributed two minor good edits. [[User:CatherineMunro|Catherine\talk]] 02:57, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

138.232.249.219[edit]

138.232.249.219 | talk | See contributions. The sentences are supposed to be about computer architecture, but are poorly formed sub-stubs. Ancheta Wis 10:33, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

128.252.5.31[edit]

128.252.5.31 | talk | contributions) has been warned for hitting DNA (already reverted) Ancheta Wis 09:43, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

145.36.163.244[edit]

81.156.168.168[edit]

has been warned and reverted.Ancheta Wis 20:32, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)


64.175.106.39[edit]

( 64.175.106.39 | talk | contributions) strange thread for Friedrich Jecklen

User:68.201.2.189[edit]

Made a series of strange edits to Al Gore, Anarcho-capitalism, Politics of American Samoa, and Abraham Lincoln, changing words like "reelect" and "cooperate" to "reëlect" and "coöperate".

These aren't necessarily inappropriate edits. The diaeresis, used to syllabify a word with two consecutive identical vowels, is archaic but is still valid grammar. -- Sensor 23:33, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
But as you say, it's archaic, and so it shouldn't be in a modern English Wikipedia. cbr 00:06, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

200.73.180.10[edit]

Odd articles unwikified. Erecandero deleted. Others might need cleanup.

User:Vogon77[edit]

Articles not wikified. Fx Travelers' diarrhea [1] and Arsenicosis [2] are directly copied from the web (no action taken by me). All edits I checked seem to be in good faith. Thue | talk 22:32, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

User:64.107.133.125[edit]

Has less than ten edits, so most likely new. Some examples of worrisome edits:

  • Added ‘I am also a Mongoloid’ to User:Pumpie's userpage
  • Added ‘(However, recent empirical evidence strongly suggests that The Mole equals The Suck.)’ to The Mole
  • Changed Wikipedia is a WikiWiki, which means that anyone can easily edit’ to Wikipedia is a WikiWiki, which means that you're dumb and that anyone can easily edit’ on Wikipedia:How to edit a page (Subsequently reverted 64.107.133.125 himself/herself).
  • Something to keep in mind, because it could indicate a thought-pattern: ‘Everyone who reads this is a great big POO-POO.

Some of the things done are pretty clearly out of line. Some things, such as edits to Wikipedia:How to edit a page, were reverted by the user himself/herself. Others are just random. We can explain it as well by ignorance as by malice, so we must assume ignorance. Iñgólemo←• 03:09, 2004 Oct 6 (UTC)

199.111.179.254[edit]

He/she's entering class notes over at RELJ 307. Mind you, I think that's an excellent idea for wiki software, but that's not what Wikipedia is for, I don't think. I listed it for speedy deletion, but he/she removed it almost right away. I don't feel like getting into an edit war this late in the evening...Mackensen 06:19, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

4.13.172.28[edit]

This substub contributor has left an enormous amount of NFL player listings. They all read like "So-and-so is a quarterback for such-and-such team. He went to blah-blah university." - Lucky 6.9 16:44, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

65.10.199.31[edit]

Lots and lots of entertainment-related substubs. Sound familiar? Different guy, different style and very prolific. Has apparently left some highly-charged political statements as well. - Lucky 6.9 02:30, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

68.48.167.231[edit]

Back again with unformatted text dumps about "The Twilight Zone." I just dropped my second nice note, but I haven't heard back yet. Can anyone help? - Lucky 6.9 02:51, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

65.2.154.44[edit]

Posting nothing but public transit schedules for the Miami, Florida area beginning today...at least I think that's where they're from. Copyvio, speedy delete? - Lucky 6.9 00:28, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Various anons and new users from Horizons fan forums[edit]

Apparently the Horizons: Empires of Istaria article has been linked to on some fan forums, and is now getting an influx of edits from new and anonymous users. Many seem to misunderstand that Wikipedia is not a place to advertise or promote their favorite game. There have also been lots of vandals. I've also noticed that many have poor spelling and grammar. This article is going to need attention until the forum topics die, and I've already spent about 5 hours watching it. --Kukuman 23:27, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

213.122.211.25, 81.131.200.99 and other anon IPs[edit]

I'm assuming this is the same clueless newbie, but someone is systematically overwriting all the individual car pages with new content. In same cases it looks valid content, albeit fairly non-NPOV, but it is destroying the existing content including the categories etc. I would say it is close to a vandalism attack because of the unseen damage it is doing 'under the rader' but I'll post here for now.

I have reverted Peugeot 205, Peugeot 307, Peugeot 405, Renault Laguna and VW Polo. Ford Focus and Toyota Yaris have also been hit, and probably all of 213.122.211.25's other contributions. There could be loads more too.

I need some help please to stop this. Could someone please take a look at this, starting with 213.122.211.2581.131.200.99 and the anon IPs that I've already had to revert (See my contribs.) [[User:Akadruid|akaDruid (Talk)]] 13:47, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

This may be quite late but I've double-checked the content on each page to make sure it's accurate. Stombs 09:10, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

65.95.5.103[edit]

It must be Anon Day somewhere in the English-speaking world. This individual is posting Eurythmics song-related substubs even as I speak and is surrounding the title in quotes. Left a couple of nice messages, but no answer yet. - Lucky 6.9 22:30, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

68.218.224.16[edit]

Another brand new anon who's posted two articles related to The Wild Wild West. One is about Nina Gilbert, a character from a single episode called Night of the Steel Assassin which this fellow also wrote about. No answer from his talk page, and I've put the Gilbert article on VfD to see what kind of consensus we can reach. The Assassin article looks good. - Lucky 6.9 17:16, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

202.59.128.7[edit]

New anon user posting article after article that are all almost certainly copyvios of some marketing or economics text, all deadend pages, wrong capitization, contextless leads. I've tried posting on his talk page, but someone else needs to step in more assertively. --Woggly 15:23, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

68.48.167.231[edit]

  • Brand-new anon user posting unencyclopedic "Twilight Zone" synopses that almost read like copyvios. Tried leaving a friendly message on the talk page, but these just keep coming. - Lucky 6.9 07:12, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

24.90.59.226[edit]

24.90.59.226 (talk · contribs) Thinks very strongly that Mortal Combat and Buffy The Vampire Slayer rule. Also gets really angry when people revert his edits. --Pyrop 00:58, Jul 15, 2004 (UTC)

81.109.164.82[edit]

81.109.164.82 (talk · contribs) A new user, vandalized Computer virus, Computer security and Waterloo station. -- Mike Rosoft 10:41, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

User:7fex5q2ek[edit]

(Moved from Wikipedia:Vandalism in Progress) Has vandalized User:Adam Bishop and moved it, and has also vandalized vandalism appropriately enough. Snowspinner 22:29, 5 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

===User: 193.219.171.229=== has replaced the entire Wikipedia: How to edit a page with some self-test on management, very strange stuff. --Woggly 11:27, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) Same user has just reverted back to the original content, the page is okay now. --Woggly 11:31, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

That happens all the time, Woggly - it's a page about editing, and it says "Even this one"; so people test to see if it's true - more often than not, they fix it themselves, if not just revert and forget about it! - IMSoP 20:55, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

User:Information-Ecologist[edit]

I-E is a Wikipedian since 18 mar 2004, see also earlier account Special:Contributions/Ecology2001. I feel that he has a different idea of what Wikipedia is supposed to be. See some contributions:

See also comments on Talk:Color.

--Hankwang 12:21, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This guy is a link spammer. He generates text from a relational database using Novell DataPerfect. He's hit en.wikibooks.org too, creating numerous strange skeletal books. Crafty bastard, isn't he? He'll need to be blocked based on his URL I think. AlbertCahalan 05:27, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

User217.230.179.232[edit]

Adding the same external link to a number of articles. Seems to be a commercial site. Then s/he made a bunch of new articles, with nothing but that link. moink 21:11, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

User:212.144.209.18[edit]

Seems to be a Greek nationalist adding little snippets to random articles. Contributions. BCorr ¤ Брайен 15:10, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

User:62.254.64.8[edit]

Adding too much praise to articles about musicians. Maximus Rex 05:25, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)

198.234.210.2[edit]

User:198.234.210.2 has been wrecking havoc on wikipedia for over a week, and I don't know how to stop him. He has made "incorrections" to some pages (trying to fix grammar, while in effect ruining it), has created many awful stub pages - labeling none as stubs and containing horrible English and very little (if any) information, with zero wiki links in or out. He also flat-out vandalized some pages like Tom Brady, where he removed a lot of information (and later, another person corrected the page but in the process much of the information was lost!), added Enon to the list of important cities in Ohio, and who knows what else (It's too time consuming to follow his trail of destruction). Someone, please help me educate this person and correct what he has done :(

This isn't one user. It's an IP address used by User:Craigbutz's students. They are vocational students doing English. See the archieved discussion on the village pump for details. I just follow them round. Secretlondon 16:08, Jan 22, 2004 (UTC)
Not to be a jerk, but shouldn't User:Craigbutz follow his his own students around and clean up after them? Klanda 21:46, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

152.163.252.3[edit]

(contributions)

68.193.185.51[edit]

New user User:68.193.185.51 (contributions) is adding random gibberish about "Abelian grapes" to pages. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 06:15, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

66.112.13.4[edit]

First edit blanked a talk page. --Uncle Ed 19:44, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Wtctemporarymemorial[edit]

  • creating a LOT of most likely copyrighted documents that are written in first person. Alexandros 01:13, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

207.189.98.44 (contributions) (talk)[edit]

User:24.207.69.51 (contributions) (talk)[edit]

  • Only a dozen entries, half of them helpful, the other half changing a Google search to an open-source search. We should encourage not block this user! --Uncle Ed 20:39, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)
  • Special:Contributions/24.207.69.51 I noticed the following -- Same-sex marriage shud be elegal becuse is also imposible. If you want to liv and love tugether without mery then is OK -- added to Talk:Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States and checked out the contributions for this user. I'm a bit suspicious because of the randomly bad spelling coupled with the facility with wiki shown in other edits a few minutes earlier -- not to mention the edit summary -- http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/. Let's keep an eye on this one... -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 21:40, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • blocked for vandalism / deliberate misspellings Daniel Quinlan 02:10, Nov 21, 2003 (UTC)
      • "Serious" contributions seem to be changing external links to Google to links to Dmoz. Most of these have not been reverted. Any comments? I'd think both should be retained where used, although I question the utility of linking to Google (or DMoz) at the end of an article? - Marshman 03:05, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)
        • Those changes were coupled with inaccurate/bizarre comments and inline HTML comments with characteristic misspellings and grammar cutesies.
  • Unblocked --Uncle Ed 20:40, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Why? Did you review the user's contributions? He's seems like an obvious and classic troll to me, even his non-reverted changes include intentionally misspelled comments, bizarre edit summaries, and his talk page comments are basically useless. Ed, please read this: http://www.angelfire.com/space/usenet/#four Daniel Quinlan 04:20, Nov 22, 2003 (UTC)
      • Please reblock. Very deliberate troll. The cost of tracking down his edits outweighs his contributions. silsor 04:23, Nov 22, 2003 (UTC)
      • See also [3] silsor
  • No contributions since I unblocked. Please leave a note at user talk:Ed Poor if any more bizarre or useless edits come from this IP. If Daniel reblocks, I have no objection. If Silsor wants to become a sysop, go for it! :-) --Uncle Ed 16:38, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

User:61.69.12.13[edit]

Severely changed Cockspur Rum. But I'm not sure whether it's vandalism or an extremely naive newbie. Also, another user 61.69.12.17 made weird edits a month or so ago; though not nearly as weird, the IPs are similar enough to make me suspicious. Any thoughts? (I'm reverting the edits BTW,so if anyone truly is curious, you can look at the history of this page.)