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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 19 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 16 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 8 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 2 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 1 (3 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
MassCFD[edit]
You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 March 27|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 08:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 432 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests[edit]
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:WikiProject Hip Hop to Category:WikiProject Hip hop – C2D per WP:WikiProject Hip hop – Fayenatic London 08:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky Atlantic (Italy) television programmes to Category:Sky Atlantic (Italian TV channel) original programming – C2D: and C2C. Gonnym (talk) 01:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky television news shows to Category:Sky News television news shows – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 01:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky reality television shows to Category:Sky UK reality television shows – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 01:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky sitcoms to Category:Sky UK sitcoms – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 01:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky game shows to Category:Sky UK game shows – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 01:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky television dramas to Category:Sky UK television dramas – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 01:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sky documentaries to Category:Sky UK documentaries – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 01:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tangail City to Category:Tangail – C2B Mehedi Abedin 00:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swiss 1. Liga seasons to Category:Swiss 1. Liga (football) seasons – C2D per Swiss 1. Liga (football) – Fayenatic London 22:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Manchester Schools to Category:Schools in Greater Manchester – partial merge C2B. Only add the subcat into the target; remove the two articles held directly, as they are already otherwise categorised in Manchester education categories. – Fayenatic London 21:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Former Category:Epson Tour events to Category:Former Epson Tour events – C2A, malformed name Tewapack (talk) 20:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Thomastown to Category:People from Thomastown, County Kilkenny – C2D per Thomastown, County Kilkenny, Thomastown is ambiguous, see the recent RM. And per Category:Thomastown, County Kilkenny which I just created. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:35, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish Austro-Hungarian history to Category:Jews and Judaism in Austria-Hungary – C2C: similar to siblings in Category:Jews and Judaism by former country. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People buried in Topeka Cemetery to Category:Burials at Topeka Cemetery – C2C within Category:Burials in the United States by cemetery – Fayenatic London 16:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People buried at the Wimborne Road Cemetery, Bournemouth to Category:Burials at the Wimborne Road Cemetery, Bournemouth
- Category:People buried at Brahmo Cemetery, Nabodebalaya to Category:Burials at Brahmo Cemetery, Nabodebalaya
- Category:People buried at Chișinău Central Cemetery to Category:Burials at Chișinău Central Cemetery
- Category:People buried in Saiwan Cemetery to Category:Burials at Saiwan Cemetery
- Category:College football seasons cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic to Category:College football team seasons cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic – (consistency in titling)
- Category:Businesses in Redondo Beach, California to Category:Companies based in Redondo Beach, California (consistency in titling)
- Category:Events at the European Track Championships to Category:Events at the UEC European Track Championships – C2D per UEC European Track Championships
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's 1 km time trial to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's 1 km time trial
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's elimination race to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's elimination race
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's individual pursuit to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's individual pursuit
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's keirin to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's keirin
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's madison to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's madison
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's omnium to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's omnium
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's points race to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's points race
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's scratch to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's scratch
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's sprint to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's sprint
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's stayer to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's stayer
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's team pursuit to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's team pursuit
- Category:European Track Championships – Men's team sprint to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Men's team sprint
- Category:European Track Championships – U23 Women's points race to Category:UEC European Track Championships – U23 Women's points race
- Category:European Track Championships – U23 Women's scratch to Category:UEC European Track Championships – U23 Women's scratch
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's 500 m time trial to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's 500 m time trial
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's elimination race to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's elimination race
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's individual pursuit to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's individual pursuit
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's keirin to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's keirin
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's madison to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's madison
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's omnium to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's omnium
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's points race to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's points race
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's scratch to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's scratch
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's sprint to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's sprint
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's team pursuit to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's team pursuit
- Category:European Track Championships – Women's team sprint to Category:UEC European Track Championships – Women's team sprint
- Category:Mon, India to Category:Cities and towns in Mon district – C2F. Mason (talk) 13:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Khonoma to Category:Cities and towns in Kohima district – C2F: (Note that the child category, has been merged and is awaiting processing) Mason (talk) 13:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:WPWX award templates to Category:WikiProject Weather award templates – C2C with Category:WikiProject Weather – Fayenatic London 12:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Europe science and nature templates to Category:Europe science and nature navigational boxes – C2C: the category consists only of navboxes (templates {{Europe topic}} and {{Navbox}}). Rename for consistency with Category:Europe navigational boxes and Category:Navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 11:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:European Track Championships to Category:UEC European Track Championships – C2D per UEC European Track Championships – Fayenatic London 11:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:2013 European Track Championships to Category:2013 UEC European Track Championships
- Category:2012 European Track Championships to Category:2012 UEC European Track Championships
- Category:2011 European Track Championships to Category:2011 UEC European Track Championships
- Category:2010 European Track Championships to Category:2010 UEC European Track Championships
- Category:2009 European Track Championships to Category:2009 UEC European Track Championships
- Category:2008 European Track Championships to Category:2008 UEC European Track Championships
- Category:Nations at the European Track Championships to Category:Nations at the UEC European Track Championships
- Category:European Track Championships navigational boxes to Category:UEC European Track Championships navigational boxes – rename, moving the page over new category page
- Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents to Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province terrorist incidents – C2D, Islamic State – Khorasan Province. Brandmeistertalk 11:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Basketball Association templates by season to Category:NBA templates by season – C2C within Category:NBA templates – Fayenatic London 08:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Filipinos convicted of manslaughter to Category:Filipino people convicted of manslaughter – C2B: siblings in Category:People convicted of manslaughter by nationality all follow the FOOian people convicted of. Parent category is Filipino criminals Mason (talk) 02:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under to Category:Drag Race Down Under – C2D, per Drag Race Down Under ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mountain West Conference soccer to Category:Mountain West Conference women's soccer – C2C Jweiss11 (talk) 23:29, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Deaths from lung cancer in the United States by state to Category:Deaths from lung cancer in the United States by state or territory – C2C: parent is Category:Deaths from cancer in the United States by state or territory Mason (talk) 21:37, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Songs scored by Prince Mahmud to Category:Songs with music by Prince Mahmud – C2C within Category:Songs by composer – Fayenatic London 16:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rise Mzansi Politicians to Category:Rise Mzansi politicians – C2A – Fayenatic London 16:08, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Political families of India by states to Category:Political families of India by state or union territory – merge C2C within Category:Categories by state or union territory of India – Fayenatic London 15:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Philippine National Police personnel to Category:Filipino police officers – merge C2C within Category:Police officers by nationality – Fayenatic London 15:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Peaky Blinders to Category:Peaky Blinders (TV series) – C2D per Peaky Blinders (TV series) – Fayenatic London 13:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Peaky Blinders characters to Category:Peaky Blinders (TV series) characters
- REDIRECT Category:Peaky Blinders character redirects to lists to Category:Peaky Blinders (TV series) character redirects to lists (leaving a redirect means the contents will not need to be edited, as the template will resolve the category redirect)
- Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Chile to Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in the Captaincy General of Chile – C2C per Category:16th century in the Captaincy General of Chile. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Commissioners of the Kansas City, Missouri Police Department to Category:Commissioners of the Kansas City Police Department – C2D: to match Kansas City Police Department, where the Missouri department is considered the primary topic. QueenofHearts 08:22, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment to Category:Anti-Zionism – C2D: if i am understanding this correctly, the main article for this category is a redirect, not an actual article Soyembika (talk) 06:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment can still exist as a subcategory of Category:Anti-Zionism. In addition this is not speediable because of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_30#Category:Anti-Israeli_sentiment. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Then does the page Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment need to be edited to say it's main page is a redirect to anti-zionism? Or does it need to be updated to say that it is an OPINIONCAT for biographies and subcategories? Soyembika (talk) 07:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would not oppose removing the catmain script on the page. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- that sounds interesting, as you can probably tell i am not very familiar with best practices/procedure.
- As it stands, the catmain is a redirect that has always been a redirect to Anti-Zionism.
- Will removing that make any difference to the way this category is used?
- Where is the proper place to have this discussion? Because the last three discusssions have not led to a consensus, and this WP:OPINIONCAT WP:COPDEF definitely needs one. Soyembika (talk) 01:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Soyembika: just removing the catmain script can be done boldly. But it would not make a real difference, it would just avoid some confusion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would not oppose removing the catmain script on the page. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Then does the page Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment need to be edited to say it's main page is a redirect to anti-zionism? Or does it need to be updated to say that it is an OPINIONCAT for biographies and subcategories? Soyembika (talk) 07:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, if only for the fact that not all Zionists are Israelis (Christian Zionism is a thing, for instance). Opposition to a political ideology is not necessarily the same thing as having negative feelings or beliefs about a country or its people. (I also personally think Anti-Israeli sentiment should redirect to Criticism of Israel instead, but that's another topic).
- XTheBedrockX (talk) 20:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- As it stands, the catmain for Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment is a redirect that has always been a redirect to Anti-Zionism. Soyembika (talk) 01:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment can still exist as a subcategory of Category:Anti-Zionism. In addition this is not speediable because of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_30#Category:Anti-Israeli_sentiment. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:The Blacklist (TV series) seasons to Category:The Blacklist seasons – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:The Blacklist (TV series) episode redirects to lists to Category:The Blacklist episode redirects to lists – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:The Blacklist (TV series) episodes to Category:The Blacklist episodes – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Garda Síochána operations to Category:Irish Garda Síochána operations – As the Garda Síochána operations and other law enforcement articles continue to appear on more and more internationally linked pages in english, there is the need to be WP:concise and WP:consistent for readers not familiar with the agency. As an example, the United States Immigrations and Customs Enforcement isn't just called Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. It uses the prefix U.S. (for example Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations) to ensure readers are able to quickly recognize the home country of the law enforcement agency without being forced to check each article that contains the names of multiple national law enforcement agencies. eximo (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Main article is Garda Síochána, parent cat is Category:Garda Síochána. Just like parent cat of Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations is Category:U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and main article is U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. AusLondonder (talk) 09:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:!Templates about Rio Grande do Sul to Category:Templates about Rio Grande do Sul – C2A AusLondonder (talk) 15:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose @AusLondonder: It would be better
to rename to Category:Rio Grande do Sul municipality templates,C2C – for consistency with subcategories of Category:Municipality templates. —andrybak (talk) 22:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)- Oh... I didn't quite realize the extent of the hierarchy of involved categories:
- This should be a full discussion to merge the first three into either
- or
- Article links for convenience: Rio Grande do Sul • List of municipalities in Rio Grande do Sul
- I don't even understand what "! Presets" is supposed to mean. @Joana machado2021: could you please clarify? —andrybak (talk) 22:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose @AusLondonder: It would be better
- I was going to come back to this yesterday but got distracted. You're right, probably worth a full discussion on all the categories. I have no clue why they're named like this. AusLondonder (talk) 08:59, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:Lists of National Football League annual leaders to Category:Lists of NFL annual leaders – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of National Football League career leaders to Category:Lists of NFL career leaders – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League lists to Category:NFL lists – C2B: Recent move discussion resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. Also, all pages within the category use the abbreviation of "NFL". Hey man im josh (talk) 19:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League postseasons by team to Category:NFL postseasons by team – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League playoff games to Category:NFL playoff games – C2B: NFL playoffs is relevant in this case. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League playoffs to Category:NFL playoffs – C2D: NFL playoffs. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League seasons by team to Category:NFL seasons by team – C2B: Recent move discussion resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1922 National Football League season by team to Category:1922 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1923 National Football League season by team to Category:1923 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1924 National Football League season by team to Category:1924 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1925 National Football League season by team to Category:1925 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1926 National Football League season by team to Category:1926 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1927 National Football League season by team to Category:1927 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1928 National Football League season by team to Category:1928 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1929 National Football League season by team to Category:1929 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1930 National Football League season by team to Category:1930 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1931 National Football League season by team to Category:1931 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1932 National Football League season by team to Category:1932 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1933 National Football League season by team to Category:1933 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1934 National Football League season by team to Category:1934 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1935 National Football League season by team to Category:1935 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1936 National Football League season by team to Category:1936 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1937 National Football League season by team to Category:1937 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1938 National Football League season by team to Category:1938 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1939 National Football League season by team to Category:1939 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1940 National Football League season by team to Category:1940 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1941 National Football League season by team to Category:1941 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1942 National Football League season by team to Category:1942 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1943 National Football League season by team to Category:1943 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1944 National Football League season by team to Category:1944 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1945 National Football League season by team to Category:1945 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1946 National Football League season by team to Category:1946 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1947 National Football League season by team to Category:1947 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1948 National Football League season by team to Category:1948 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1949 National Football League season by team to Category:1949 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1950 National Football League season by team to Category:1950 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1951 National Football League season by team to Category:1951 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1952 National Football League season by team to Category:1952 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1953 National Football League season by team to Category:1953 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1954 National Football League season by team to Category:1954 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1955 National Football League season by team to Category:1955 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1956 National Football League season by team to Category:1956 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1957 National Football League season by team to Category:1957 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1958 National Football League season by team to Category:1958 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1959 National Football League season by team to Category:1959 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1960 National Football League season by team to Category:1960 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1961 National Football League season by team to Category:1961 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1962 National Football League season by team to Category:1962 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1963 National Football League season by team to Category:1963 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1964 National Football League season by team to Category:1964 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1965 National Football League season by team to Category:1965 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1966 National Football League season by team to Category:1966 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1967 National Football League season by team to Category:1967 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1968 National Football League season by team to Category:1968 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1969 National Football League season by team to Category:1969 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1970 National Football League season by team to Category:1970 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1971 National Football League season by team to Category:1971 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1972 National Football League season by team to Category:1972 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1973 National Football League season by team to Category:1973 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1974 National Football League season by team to Category:1974 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1975 National Football League season by team to Category:1975 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1976 National Football League season by team to Category:1976 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1977 National Football League season by team to Category:1977 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1978 National Football League season by team to Category:1978 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1979 National Football League season by team to Category:1979 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1980 National Football League season by team to Category:1980 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1981 National Football League season by team to Category:1981 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1982 National Football League season by team to Category:1982 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1983 National Football League season by team to Category:1983 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1984 National Football League season by team to Category:1984 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1985 National Football League season by team to Category:1985 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1986 National Football League season by team to Category:1986 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1987 National Football League season by team to Category:1987 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1988 National Football League season by team to Category:1988 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1989 National Football League season by team to Category:1989 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1990 National Football League season by team to Category:1990 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1991 National Football League season by team to Category:1991 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1992 National Football League season by team to Category:1992 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1993 National Football League season by team to Category:1993 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1994 National Football League season by team to Category:1994 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1995 National Football League season by team to Category:1995 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1996 National Football League season by team to Category:1996 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1997 National Football League season by team to Category:1997 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1998 National Football League season by team to Category:1998 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:1999 National Football League season by team to Category:1999 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2000 National Football League season by team to Category:2000 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2001 National Football League season by team to Category:2001 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2002 National Football League season by team to Category:2002 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2003 National Football League season by team to Category:2003 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2004 National Football League season by team to Category:2004 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2005 National Football League season by team to Category:2005 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2006 National Football League season by team to Category:2006 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2007 National Football League season by team to Category:2007 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2008 National Football League season by team to Category:2008 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2009 National Football League season by team to Category:2009 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2010 National Football League season by team to Category:2010 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2011 National Football League season by team to Category:2011 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2012 National Football League season by team to Category:2012 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2013 National Football League season by team to Category:2013 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2014 National Football League season by team to Category:2014 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2015 National Football League season by team to Category:2015 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2016 National Football League season by team to Category:2016 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2017 National Football League season by team to Category:2017 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2018 National Football League season by team to Category:2018 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2019 National Football League season by team to Category:2019 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2020 National Football League season by team to Category:2020 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2021 National Football League season by team to Category:2021 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2022 National Football League season by team to Category:2022 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2023 National Football League season by team to Category:2023 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:2024 National Football League season by team to Category:2024 NFL season by team – C2B.
- Category:National Football League seasons to Category:NFL seasons – C2B/C2D: List of NFL seasons. Recent move discussion resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1922 National Football League season to Category:1922 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1923 National Football League season to Category:1923 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1924 National Football League season to Category:1924 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1925 National Football League season to Category:1925 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1926 National Football League season to Category:1926 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1927 National Football League season to Category:1927 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1928 National Football League season to Category:1928 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1929 National Football League season to Category:1929 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1930 National Football League season to Category:1930 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1931 National Football League season to Category:1931 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1932 National Football League season to Category:1932 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1933 National Football League season to Category:1933 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1934 National Football League season to Category:1934 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1935 National Football League season to Category:1935 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1936 National Football League season to Category:1936 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1937 National Football League season to Category:1937 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1938 National Football League season to Category:1938 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1939 National Football League season to Category:1939 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1940 National Football League season to Category:1940 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1941 National Football League season to Category:1941 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1942 National Football League season to Category:1942 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1943 National Football League season to Category:1943 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1944 National Football League season to Category:1944 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1945 National Football League season to Category:1945 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1946 National Football League season to Category:1946 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1947 National Football League season to Category:1947 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1948 National Football League season to Category:1948 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1949 National Football League season to Category:1949 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1950 National Football League season to Category:1950 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1951 National Football League season to Category:1951 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1952 National Football League season to Category:1952 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1953 National Football League season to Category:1953 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1954 National Football League season to Category:1954 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1955 National Football League season to Category:1955 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1956 National Football League season to Category:1956 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1957 National Football League season to Category:1957 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1958 National Football League season to Category:1958 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1959 National Football League season to Category:1959 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1960 National Football League season to Category:1960 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1961 National Football League season to Category:1961 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1962 National Football League season to Category:1962 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1963 National Football League season to Category:1963 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1964 National Football League season to Category:1964 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1965 National Football League season to Category:1965 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1966 National Football League season to Category:1966 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1967 National Football League season to Category:1967 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1968 National Football League season to Category:1968 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1969 National Football League season to Category:1969 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1970 National Football League season to Category:1970 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1971 National Football League season to Category:1971 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1972 National Football League season to Category:1972 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1973 National Football League season to Category:1973 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1974 National Football League season to Category:1974 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1975 National Football League season to Category:1975 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1976 National Football League season to Category:1976 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1977 National Football League season to Category:1977 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1978 National Football League season to Category:1978 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1979 National Football League season to Category:1979 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1980 National Football League season to Category:1980 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1981 National Football League season to Category:1981 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1982 National Football League season to Category:1982 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1983 National Football League season to Category:1983 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1984 National Football League season to Category:1984 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1985 National Football League season to Category:1985 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1986 National Football League season to Category:1986 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1987 National Football League season to Category:1987 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1988 National Football League season to Category:1988 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1989 National Football League season to Category:1989 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1990 National Football League season to Category:1990 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1991 National Football League season to Category:1991 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1992 National Football League season to Category:1992 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1993 National Football League season to Category:1993 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1994 National Football League season to Category:1994 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1995 National Football League season to Category:1995 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1996 National Football League season to Category:1996 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1997 National Football League season to Category:1997 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1998 National Football League season to Category:1998 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:1999 National Football League season to Category:1999 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2000 National Football League season to Category:2000 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2001 National Football League season to Category:2001 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2002 National Football League season to Category:2002 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2003 National Football League season to Category:2003 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2004 National Football League season to Category:2004 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2005 National Football League season to Category:2005 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2006 National Football League season to Category:2006 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2007 National Football League season to Category:2007 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2008 National Football League season to Category:2008 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2009 National Football League season to Category:2009 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2010 National Football League season to Category:2010 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2011 National Football League season to Category:2011 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2012 National Football League season to Category:2012 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2013 National Football League season to Category:2013 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2014 National Football League season to Category:2014 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2015 National Football League season to Category:2015 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2016 National Football League season to Category:2016 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2017 National Football League season to Category:2017 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2018 National Football League season to Category:2018 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2019 National Football League season to Category:2019 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2020 National Football League season to Category:2020 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2021 National Football League season to Category:2021 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2022 National Football League season to Category:2022 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2023 National Football League season to Category:2023 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:2024 National Football League season to Category:2024 NFL season – C2B.
- Category:National Football League trophies and awards to Category:NFL trophies and awards – C2B: Recent move discussion resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League teams seasons to Category:NFL team seasons – C2B/C2D: Lists of NFL team seasons. Recent move discussion resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League officials to Category:NFL officials – C2D: List of NFL officials. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:05, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of National Football League head coaches by team to Category:Lists of NFL head coaches by team – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:05, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League head coaches by team to Category:NFL head coaches by team – C2B. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League head coaches to Category:NFL head coaches – C2D: List of NFL head coaches. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct National Football League teams to Category:Defunct NFL teams – C2D: List of defunct NFL franchises. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League defensive coordinators to Category:NFL defensive coordinators – C2D: List of current NFL defensive coordinators. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League offensive coordinators to Category:NFL offensive coordinators – C2D: List of NFL offensive coordinators. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Football League mascots to Category:NFL mascots – C2D: List of NFL mascots. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- This applies to all the NFL noms here. A sub category should follow the parent category. As long as we aren't using Category:NFL for the parent, these shouldn't move. If we do move, the parent, then this should also move. Gonnym (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: The parent (National Football League) was one of two exceptions in the recent move discussion that resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. I also don't believe there's a rule or guideline that states we shouldn't switch to abbreviations at any point if the pages themselves are abbreviated. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Take it to a full discussion here then. Categories should match and not switch over. That is basic thing here. Gonnym (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: Then point to a guideline that states that. It makes sense to utilize the full name in the first instance and then utilize an acronym afterwards, as we do in articles. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is how it's always been done here. Gonnym (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- So, to be clear, your argument is not policy/MoS based @Gonnym? It's just WP:IDONTLIKEIT? Speaking from experience, I very frequently see abbreviations or short names used in subcategories of larger topics. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is how it's always been done here. Gonnym (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: Then point to a guideline that states that. It makes sense to utilize the full name in the first instance and then utilize an acronym afterwards, as we do in articles. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Take it to a full discussion here then. Categories should match and not switch over. That is basic thing here. Gonnym (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: The parent (National Football League) was one of two exceptions in the recent move discussion that resulted in utilizing the abbreviation. I also don't believe there's a rule or guideline that states we shouldn't switch to abbreviations at any point if the pages themselves are abbreviated. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- This applies to all the NFL noms here. A sub category should follow the parent category. As long as we aren't using Category:NFL for the parent, these shouldn't move. If we do move, the parent, then this should also move. Gonnym (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Korean people in the Imperial Japanese Army to Category:Koreans in the Imperial Japanese Army – C2E: Concision toobigtokale (talk) 22:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Toobigtokale, the main category is at Category:Korean people. I would nominate that category and subcategories first per Koreans under C2D, but there's lot of stuff to tag. Brandmeistertalk 10:38, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good eye, thanks. I may give that a go in near future, but it is a big project. Is it ok to do it incrementally? toobigtokale (talk) 15:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but when tagging and nominating a category, all subcategories should be added here too (top to bottom, starting from parent). Brandmeistertalk 19:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now as the proposal conflicts with Category:Korean people. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but when tagging and nominating a category, all subcategories should be added here too (top to bottom, starting from parent). Brandmeistertalk 19:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good eye, thanks. I may give that a go in near future, but it is a big project. Is it ok to do it incrementally? toobigtokale (talk) 15:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Toobigtokale, the main category is at Category:Korean people. I would nominate that category and subcategories first per Koreans under C2D, but there's lot of stuff to tag. Brandmeistertalk 10:38, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Municipality of Nazarje to Category:Municipalities of Slovenia – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Municipality of Muta to Category:Municipalities of Slovenia – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:16, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Timimoun Province to Category:Provinces of Algeria – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Djanet Province to Category:Provinces of Algeria – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bordj Baji Mokhtar Province to Category:Provinces of Algeria – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:El Menia Province to Category:Provinces of Algeria – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Béni Abbès Province to Category:Provinces of Algeria – C2F. Mason (talk) 04:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think we should upmerge these five categories. If I understand the situation correctly, the provinces were created in 2019, and we have articles on all the districts in these provinces and on come localities (in any case, the administrative centers). However, these articles have not yet been updated or have been updated inconsistently, and they remain in the category trees of the old provinces where they belonged before 2019. I would update them, but the update might require some research (and I hope it does not require knowledge of Arabic), but I do not think upmerging is a good idea. Ymblanter (talk) 06:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People's Artists of Moldova to Category:People's Artists of the Moldavian SSR – C2D: And this has the added benefit of merging the duplicate Mason (talk) 13:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I think that "People's Artist of the Moldavian SSR" was awarded before 1991 and "People's Artist of Moldova" after 1991. Also People's Artist of the Moldavian SSR is a redirect, so I don't think C2D applies. TSventon (talk) 16:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- The category description for People's Artists of Moldova referred to itself as People's Artists of the Moldavian SSR. But, you could very well be right. Mason (talk) 18:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have checked the contents and adapted the descriptions based on the Azerbaijan equivalents. TSventon (talk) 21:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- What is the consensus now? Ymblanter (talk) 06:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison Are you happy to leave the categories as they are? TSventon (talk) 13:27, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- What is the consensus now? Ymblanter (talk) 06:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I think that "People's Artist of the Moldavian SSR" was awarded before 1991 and "People's Artist of Moldova" after 1991. Also People's Artist of the Moldavian SSR is a redirect, so I don't think C2D applies. TSventon (talk) 16:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
PLEASE NOTE: I have moved all of the following Categories here pending adequate confirmation of their eligibility under C2C. I made a serious effort to look for that, but was unable to find such confirmation. There is a massive jumbled welter of Categories in this realm, with no prevailing pattern that I can discern. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century Canadian people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian people by century and descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century American people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by century and decent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:American rappers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American rappers by descent – C2C: See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 10#Container categories by descent for all the ones below. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the United States Congress by ethnic or national origin to Category:Members of the United States Congress by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American gangsters by ethnic or national origin to Category:American gangsters by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American social scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American social scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:Canadian people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:Romanian people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Murdered American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Murdered American people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American sculptors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American sculptors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:American people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American classical musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American classical musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American male actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American male actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American singers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American singers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Malaysian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Malaysian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:French politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Dutch politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transnistrian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Transnistrian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Brazilian actresses by ethnic or national origin to Category:Brazilian actresses by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:East German people by ethnic or national origin to Category:East German people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actresses by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actresses by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hawaii people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Hawaii people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Filipino politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Filipino politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Middle Eastern people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Middle Eastern people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Moldovan politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Moldovan politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cebuano people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Cebuano people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Swedish politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American photographers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American photographers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Indonesian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Indonesian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Romanian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American academics by ethnic or national origin to Category:American academics by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American short story writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American short story writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American novelists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American novelists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American dramatists and playwrights by ethnic or national origin to Category:American dramatists and playwrights by descent – C2A. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American poets by ethnic or national origin to Category:American poets by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian families by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian families by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Turks and Caicos Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Turks and Caicos Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Montserratian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Montserratian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Manx people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Manx people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jersey people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Jersey people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guernsey people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guernsey people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Caymanian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Caymanian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:United States Virgin Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:United States Virgin Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sint Maarten people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Sint Maarten people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saint Martinois people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Saint Martinois people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Martiniquais people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Martiniquais people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Overseas France by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guadeloupean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guadeloupean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Curaçao people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Curaçao people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Aruban people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Aruban people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Caribbean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Caribbean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Anguillan people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Anguillan people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:British writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:British writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Welsh people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Welsh people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Scottish people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Northern Ireland by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Northern Ireland by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American professional wrestlers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American professional wrestlers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American physicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American physicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American models by ethnic or national origin to Category:American models by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American military personnel by ethnic or national origin to Category:American military personnel by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American lawyers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American lawyers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American journalists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American journalists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American film directors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American film directors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American educators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American educators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American comedians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American comedians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American aviators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American aviators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American artists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American artists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American architects by ethnic or national origin to Category:American architects by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American activists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American activists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by occupation and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by occupation and descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:American people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English people by ethnic or national origin to Category:English people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now to all by ethnic or national origin nominations. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 08:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- None currently
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Palestinian people by descent to Category:People from the State of Palestine by descent – C2C: per parent Category:People from the State of Palestine. Stisorder (talk) 22:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Palestinian people by descent" is the correct form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: Do you also oppose the first one, or we can process it? Ymblanter (talk) 11:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Palestinian people by descent" is the correct form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French atheist writers to Category:French writers on Atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I disagree, since this category can be included in Category:French atheists. A "writer on Atheism" is not necessarily an atheist, and an atheist writer can write about many different issues except Atheism. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, none of the writers listed in this category are "writers on Atheism", they didn't write on that issue. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- In fact, I just solved the problem argued: parent category is now French atheists. PedroAcero76 (talk) 12:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76, This was *JUST* settled Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers. Are you really going to have us relitigate this? Mason (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: you settled "atheist writers", not this one. Btw, in your opinion Category:French Roman Catholic writers is useless, too, and should be renamed to Category:French writers on Roman Catholicism (I guess the same problem with Category:Roman Catholic writers, and so on...). Am I right? Too many issues you settled with such a short discussion, imo. But the worst thing is that you messed it all up. PedroAcero76 (talk) 23:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excuse me? I would encourage you to assume good faith instead of what you have written here. Mason (talk) 23:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76 " But the worst thing is that you messed it all up." is inappropriate and not in good faith. Mason (talk) 23:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: I do assume good faith, but a bad result. One consequence will be that the new category will be an empty one: Jean Meslier didn't write on atheism, neither Marcel Proust did (he was just a novelist). In fact, Meslier wrote on Catholicism: he was a harsh critic of Roman Catholicism. So you will get an empty, useless category, mistaking concepts. That's what I tried to explain. I assume that we all try to improve Wikipedia, and I apologize if I didn't explain myself clearly enough. It wasn't my intention. PedroAcero76 (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76 " But the worst thing is that you messed it all up." is inappropriate and not in good faith. Mason (talk) 23:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excuse me? I would encourage you to assume good faith instead of what you have written here. Mason (talk) 23:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: you settled "atheist writers", not this one. Btw, in your opinion Category:French Roman Catholic writers is useless, too, and should be renamed to Category:French writers on Roman Catholicism (I guess the same problem with Category:Roman Catholic writers, and so on...). Am I right? Too many issues you settled with such a short discussion, imo. But the worst thing is that you messed it all up. PedroAcero76 (talk) 23:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76, This was *JUST* settled Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers. Are you really going to have us relitigate this? Mason (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- In fact, I just solved the problem argued: parent category is now French atheists. PedroAcero76 (talk) 12:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, none of the writers listed in this category are "writers on Atheism", they didn't write on that issue. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I disagree, since this category can be included in Category:French atheists. A "writer on Atheism" is not necessarily an atheist, and an atheist writer can write about many different issues except Atheism. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:German atheist writers to Category:German writers on Atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian atheist writers to Category:Russian writers on Atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English atheist writers to Category:English writers on Atheism – C2C: parent Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 14:50, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Columbian atheist writers to Category:Columbian writers on AtheismCategory:Colombian atheist writers to Category:Colombian writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers on Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:41, 3 March 2024 (UTC)- Category:Albanian atheist writers to Category:Albanian writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers on Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:41, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American atheist writers to Category:American writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers_on_Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Austrian atheist writers to Category:Austrian writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers_on_Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Question Why 'Atheism' with a capital 'A'? Subcategories of Category:Atheism spell it with a lowercase 'a'. Otherwise I support the renamings. NLeeuw (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I was just basing it off of the parent category. No other reason than that. Mason (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Moving all to full. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 3#Category:Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 22:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I was just basing it off of the parent category. No other reason than that. Mason (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Question Why 'Atheism' with a capital 'A'? Subcategories of Category:Atheism spell it with a lowercase 'a'. Otherwise I support the renamings. NLeeuw (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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