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The COA image[edit]

Someone make it a PNG please. 81.77.176.194 (talk) 22:05, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why, a png will be a much larger file size. ww2censor (talk) 22:51, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stages of Independence[edit]

What is the link between the 1916 republic and the 26 county free state.

Does the Irish Government consider the proclamation of the republic to be the founding document? 92.13.231.24 (talk) 18:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the article, and History_of_Ireland#Home_Rule,_Easter_Rising_and_War_of_Independence_(1912–1922) and subsequent sections on that article. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 19:25, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 September 2023[edit]

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Change estimated population from 5,123,536 to 5,281,600 based on CSO report: https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2023/keyfindings/ Garography (talk) 09:47, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ireland naming discussions[edit]

Per WP:ARCA#Motion: Ireland article names - Required location of move discussions rescinded, discussions on Ireland article names no longer have to take place at WT:IECOLL. In future, they can take place on article talk pages. Scolaire (talk) 13:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We should probably keep a fixed link to previous discussions in the header, even if future ones take place here. Canterbury Tail talk 16:10, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The "debate" on this should have been much better flagged. I don't think there are any arbcom members there now who were also there in 2009. And in my opinion, IECOLL should still be used as the default location for RM debates, as any proposed move will involve three pages, more than likely. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 16:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a list of all the links compiled by Crouch, Swale. I don't know where it should go, though – certainly not on the top of this page. Scolaire (talk) 17:27, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on the template, it should be done by the time the IECOLL-talk TFD is closed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do you intend to do with it then? There's no way it should go on the top of this page. It's far too bloated. Scolaire (talk) 17:35, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will add the RM discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration and collapse the older discussions and those that were speedily closed on the article talk pages. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would it not be better to convert your template into a page, say Talk:Republic of Ireland/Naming discussions, and then create a template that says "For previous discussions on the naming of Ireland articles, see Talk:Republic of Ireland/Naming discussions"? Scolaire (talk) 09:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are at least 3 articles that the restriction affected, island, country and DAB page and the flag was also it seems discussed. Similar to Ford its not a single page so putting it at Talk:Republic of Ireland/Naming discussions similar to say Talk:United States/Name wouldn't be helpful as it would only cover the country discussions when primary topic is also a major discussion point maybe moreso than the Republic of Ireland v Ireland (country) debate. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:41, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[It] wouldn't be helpful as it would only cover the country discussions. It would cover everything it covers. The only difference is that it wouldn't be sprawled across three or more pages. Instead you (or I) could create a small template – about the size of the now disused IECOLL template – which could go at the top of every page it might be needed, and serve exactly the same purpose: pointing users to previous discussions. Where the page is doesn't matter; my suggestion was just that: a suggestion. Scolaire (talk) 10:49, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Canterbury Tail: a link to those past discussions, being placed at this page, the Ireland page & the Ireland (disambiguation) page, should suffice. GoodDay (talk) 17:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would likely cover it. Canterbury Tail talk 17:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GoodDay, Canterbury Tail, and Crouch, Swale: I have added Template:Ireland naming discussions to the top of the relevant talk pages. It simply replaces Discussions relating to the naming of Ireland articles must occur at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration with Discussions relating to the naming of Ireland articles can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration and its archives. Scolaire (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's great :) GoodDay (talk) 15:12, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Scolaire: But what about the other discussions and future discussions. IECOLL only has discussions from 2009 to 2023 and doesn't have those previously and future RMs unlike the Ford or Georgia RM templates. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:56, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Ford and Georgia templates have future RMs? Seriously, though, all I've done is replace a pointer to IECOLL with a different pointer to IECOLL. That's all anybody has asked for here. If you were to create a page, as I suggested (and it would take some work, since your template is missing vast swathes of relevant discussion), then I would change the template to point to it. Scolaire (talk) 19:06, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just a thought. Shall we consider retiring (label inactive) WP:IECOLL? After all, we do have WP:IE, WP:UK & WP:NIR. Those three WikiProjects should suffice. GoodDay (talk) 21:17, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such country as the Republic of Ireland. The Irish Constitution is quite clear about the name of the country: "The name of the country is Éire or, in the English language, Ireland." — Preceding unsigned comment added by SanVitoresII (talk • contribs) 18:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And not a single person has claimed otherwise. Everyone knows it's actual name, that's not in dispute. Canterbury Tail talk 18:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request - 8/4/2024[edit]

Inexplicably, someone in the past day or two has been changing the demographics in the sidebar to list the largest ethnic group as "Asian Irish", as well as changing the percentages. Can someone revert this? Samonellamiller (talk) 02:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look now. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah - that guy. No idea how long it took that obvious vandalism-only account so long to be perma-blocked. All the changes were reverted. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]