Talk:Curry mee

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noodles and curry[edit]

the sources you cite don't say anything about the characteristics of curry mee, curry mee is not a single dish from one country, it's just a linguistic term

There are many variations of curry noodles (curry mee), but here Health is trying to claim that curry noodles are exclusive to curry laksa, others should not use the name "curry noodle" Sayurasem (talk)

Actually, at least one of them do. Ken Hom in his book, in fact, makes a claim that it is a "Malaysian" dish. It's his opinion of course, and there appears to be a lot of confusion surrounding coconut milk-based laksa and "curry mee" due to their similar characteristics, particularly outside of Southeast Asia. But it is quite clear that versions or variations of this dish is widely known in English language contexts. Mie Aceh is not one of them, because none of the authoritative sources I have seen make a claim that Mie Aceh is colloquially or widely known as curry mee in English throughout the country. There is no evidence that it is not a distinct culinary tradition but merely copied from the Malaysian/Singaporean tradition of curry mee/curry laksa which you have claimed in one of your edit summaries.

With regards to the linguistic term, what you said has some merit, from a common sense perspective. "Mee" is a Hokkien loanword that is used widely to describe noodle dishes in the region, especially Malaysian/Singaporean contexts, while "mie" appears to be exclusively used in Indonesian and Dutch contexts. Your claim that "curry noodles" may be a generic descriptor in English of some dishes that share similar characteristics with each other is not incorrect; that is exactly the approach Pesana used within the context of the Mie Aceh article, since "mie kari" does not appear to actually refer to an identifiable dish or tradition within Indonesian cuisine. If nothing else, "curry noodles" is a completely neutral English term that could be created as a disambiguation page if you feel that strongly about connecting a series of dishes which share a particular characteristic in one page. What you are trying to claim here though, from your own original research, is that Mie Aceh is a variation of curry mee or curry laksa, and you cited a Indonesian government website written in the Indonesian language to justify your edit when the website does not actually make that claim at all.

The problem here though, is that we are editing the English Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary is a site policy. This means that a page about curry mee/curry laksa is not obligated to explain or highlight to the general reader, that there is one instance of the Indonesian government using the word "mie kari" to describe Mie Aceh in an article that has nothing to do with the actual curry mee/curry laksa dish, because that would be going against Wikipedia policy of placing an undue emphasis on an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority viewpoint. I don't see you insisting that the Thai dish khao soi be mentioned anywhere on the page since it clearly looks and tastes like a "curry noodle". The Javanese version of this article more or less translates the English version of the article and makes no mention of any cultural or linguistic links between curry mee or mie aceh that you allege is missing in the current version of the article. For that matter, this page was once hijacked by an Indonesian editor to create a content fork about Mie Aceh, so in the absence of any compelling sources, it does make me wonder what your motivations of editing might be. Haleth (talk) 03:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]