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Gender of Angels[edit]

Regarding the following paintings

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Bernhard_Plockhorst_-_Schutzengel.jpg/440px-Bernhard_Plockhorst_-_Schutzengel.jpg

and

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/The_Wounded_Angel_-_Hugo_Simberg.jpg/400px-The_Wounded_Angel_-_Hugo_Simberg.jpg


Regarding the gender of the Angels in the paintings posted here "Hugo Simberg, The Wounded Angel (1903)" (the author of the painting was a symbolist like Carlos Schwabe below, and this painting was in the "Protestant cathedral in Tampere" The Wounded Angel) and "The Angel of Death, detail from the painting "Death and the Gravedigger by Carlos Schwabe" please read here (first two pages) (Please translate the content from the this link (more or less translation, please to mark and copy entire parts of the text) here https://translate.google.pl/?hl=pl#view=home &op=translate sl=en&tl=pl

Please be understanding that the text from the link is in the language it is in.) http://krzyz.nazwa.pl/forum/index.php/topic,10654.msg243311.html#msg243311 http://krzyz.nazwa.pl/forum/index.php/topic,10654.msg243320.html#msg243320 and


Carlos Schwabe


"Together with a group of other symbolists, he belonged to the mystical order of the Rosy Cross. Together they exhibited their esoteric and fairy-tale paintings at the Paris Salon de la Rose-Croix, which operated in the years 1892–1897."


Source: http://krzyz.nazwa.pl/forum/index.php/topic,10654.0.html Szukający Prawdy (talk) 11:28, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edits on Section "Background"[edit]

Hellow, regarding the question formulated by User:Mikeblas: The previous source was not removed, but trimmed. I did so for two reasons 1. the part about angels being necessary to close a gap between humanity and God because of seperation, indeed mentioned in the source, appears to be a Christian projection, given that, at least Islam, there is no change between the relationship between mankind and God, at least on an epistemic level, after "the Fall". This is evident from a lot of main articles, and hard to find a specific source for, since the concept is just not referred to in the Islamic conception of angels, God, mankind. You cannot prove the rejection of something that isn't even attested. 2. The part trimmed had some extensive details on possible parallels between Jewish angelology and Persian angelology. The implicit message that Judaism gradually adopted Persian angels, is too simplified. The core message which is generally agreed upon, has been left untouched and integrated into the added text of the article. A citation challanging the simplefied account has been added as well in the lower paragraph, along with the previous source. If I accidentally removed something important or notable, please let me know. with best regards VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 02:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it be possible to represent both points of view? -- Mikeblas (talk) 02:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]