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Mention Holocaust victims murdered by shooting[edit]
The sentence "Many victims of the Holocaust were murdered in gas chambers, while others died of starvation or disease or while working as slave labourers." should be updated to say " Many victims of the Holocaust were murdered in gas chambers, while others died of starvation or disease or while working as slave labourers, or killed in mass shootings." Mchcopl (talk) 07:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good suggestion. The previous sentence mentions "mass executions" so I changed that to "mass shootings" and cited Evans as a source, and tweeked the following sentence too. (Shirer does not specify shootings on page 946.) — Diannaa (talk) 11:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is written in British English and the hyphenated form is still (I believe) more normal there. We tend to retain hyphens more than US writers. In US English, the hyphenated form has acquired negative connotations among orgs such as ADL in recent years. Either way it refers to irrational prejudice against Jews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pincrete (talk • contribs) 06:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<diff>[reply]
I have removed content sourced to this article, where it states that at the time, the term "Nazi" was considered derogatory, because there's a German word "Naczi", "which was an insulting term for a 'foolish clumsy person'". I don't think we should mention that it was considered derogatory, because while it's an interesting bit of trivia, it's too much detail for an article about Hitler. This article is already too long, so including off-topic details is not a good idea in my opinion. The term is no longer considered derogatory as far as I am aware, and explaining why they found it to be so is way off-topic. Perhaps consider including it at Nazi Party instead? Discussion welcome. — Diannaa (talk) 13:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also there is an alternative, which is it was the German post officer who coined the term. Slatersteven (talk) 13:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's already in Nazi_Party#Name so I thought why not add it here. The section sounded as if they named themselves "Nazi", but it fact they despised of it. But the way it is now seems good. It's a good example of history being written by the victors. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 14:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't need or benefit being here IMO. We cannot include here every snippet about AH, the party, Germany at the time etc. This article is about the man himself and as Diannaa says, it's already over long.Pincrete (talk) 19:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it may be worth mentioning briefly, the article says "now known as the 'Nazi Party'". "Nazi" was a term used contemporaneously with "NSDAP", but was pejorative nickname never used by the party itself. The previous content may have been excessive, but the current one misrepresents it. Durchbruchmüller (talk) 21:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It may be worth saying that this was/is informal, but so many colloquial terms for groups were originally pejorative, or at least mocking. Tories, Puritans etc. The term has become the standard descriptor for the party and regime and is no longer pejorative, except to the degree that AH and the party have a bad reputation!Pincrete (talk) 05:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such word in German. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Nazi official Hans Frank suggested that Alois's mother had been employed as a housekeeper by a Jewish family in Graz."
This is wrong. Frank did not suggest this. He described it as the accussation which he investigated for Hitler. Frank himself said that he did not believe it to be true, and that he did not find any support for this. The article should be corrected. 47.156.172.168 (talk) 23:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]